Looks like proto-norse?

Apparently.
underneath ‘SFC’ can be ‘Subtract FC’?
and a binary code at the end.

My guess is that the top “paragraph” is just words (1′s 2′s and 3′s just being word boundaries) and the middle equations are just the function used to describe the relationship and differences in the word boundaries to define the actual words. Of course solving that is another story

The first block at the top appears to be comprised of trinary (base-3) values (one bar for 0, two bars for 1, three bars for 2?). The final block could be comprised of binary values (one bar for 0, two bars for 1?)

A few notes on the message.

1. There appear to be 3 (possibly 4) sections. The top part, the middle (which appears to be a symbol translation chart), the three characters below the middle part (more below), and the bottom.

2. The line lengths of the top and bottom sections vary.

3. The top part obviously uses a trinary set of symbols. Line lengths vary from 8 to 15 chars. This would probably exclude meanings that have to do with physical positioning. It also means we’re likely not looking at 8 or 16 bit words.

4. The bottom part obviously uses binary. Line lengths vary from 9 to 37 chars, with most being either 36 or 37 chars in length.

5. If you do numerical counts on the symbols in the middle section, characters appear from 1 to 3 times in the message. This kind of distribution might hint at a polyalphabetic cypher of some kind. Of course, this is a short message.

6. The three characters below the middle section appear to be S (not sure if this is plain text or encoded) | F | C
does SFC mean anything relevant?

7. Some of the odd symbols in the middle appear to be ascii chars. I’m not sure what the others are. Tracking down where else those symbols appear may give a clue regarding the writer of the fax.

8. It might also be worthwhile to check if the fax machine/server has a log of who sent this.

If the center is hex, you can convert it from hex to decimal and you get “17347400615334210681″ if you convert that to “1337″ text, the ways hackers sometimes type, you get “iteataoo6iseea2io68i.” If you break that down you get “I…eat a…i see a…”

I don’t see 1 and A there, but it seems like it

so the ‘s’ symbol would be either hex A or 1.

making the 3 symbols below the 2 hex lines:
either: 1FC
or: AFC

it says “WAKE UP SHEEPLE”

I thought there may be hex values there, but the digit 1 and letter A are missing from the mix.

Fermilab people: if you’re going to publish something like this and ask for assistance, publish a better copy. A high-resolution scan of the original would be appropriate. It’s not clear whether breaks in some of the lines are intentional or noise.

Remember the big flap back in 2004 over that forged letter about Bush’s military service? The published version was a fax with some distortion. If the published version had been a high-resolution scan, it would have been clear earlier that the characters matched Microsoft Word output, not an IBM Selectric Composer, and thus could not have been produced in the 1970s.

Looking closely at the tick marks, it looks like some were made top to bottom and some bottom to top. Or at least they have their blobs on top. This means either:
-Writer had the text sideways to how it’s shown.
-Writer spent more time thinking about how certain parts translate.

Also notice that on the bottom there are more tick marks with a corner pointing to the top of the next one. (Including a pair of lines far from each other). It seems like he was in a hurry on that part. Timing analysis anyone?

Also, the dots on the E symbols in the middle seem deliberate. Which other dots look like they came from the original and which from fax/scanner?

Looking at just the top part, if you make groups of three from the symbols, each group has 27 possibilities (3^3=27). You can take this to mean 27 characters: A-Z and a space. If you do the direct mapping of 111=A, 112=B, …, 332=Z, 333=(space), you get

XRYBH PWFTAYHTR KFLCS UYAJ XQJQUYDMIPT

Also, I tried assuming the 2 lines of hex in the middle are MAC addresses. They’re the right length, but they’re not valid MAC addresses (no manufacturer is assigned).

I have decoded the first and the last sections, but the texts look strange…

I know Im probably off base with this, but it sadens me when a code or cipher comes along the first thought of many is to turn it into some binary/hex conversion and then solve for that.

If you are going to build something worth the adventure of figuring out for other than brute forcefulness try adding some spice to things. What things?

Ok int he symbols used above there are some very close approximation to other alphabets, in perticular look at this image
http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/hensel_1741.jpg

You can see a bit of the Sclavonico in the set as well as some others not on this map.

Also, when you hit things owith 8′s and 16′s (and the magic intervals there of) do not just jump to CHAR() solutions..think of other systems that those bits get used…like say in the i ching or the go board.

Also, try rotation things a bit, or reading them in culturally different ways, properly publish manga should have opened some of you to that…or if your studying tora.

While i do not have a solution for this particular bit I just weanted to drop the above on folks looking for a solution or making new puzzeling fun:)-

-tom

The top and bottom sections appear to be the encoded/encrypted message, the middle section appears to be the two keys used to decode alt. decrypt the two parts.

Each set of ticks has 8 lines. When you turn the image 90 degres to the right (works both ways), you could consider ‘ ‘ being 0 and ‘_’ being 1 (or the other way around) in a set of bytes, one byte per line. This gives only 4 decoding possibilities for theses 2 sets of ticks.

Of course the final code is probably not as simple as what I say above, but the 8 lines per set thing immediately made me think about this, and by the way this would finely match with all these hexadecimal digits.

I understand that the way each set of ticks ends with only whitespace tends to contradict my sheet rotation idea.

Definitely the work of a computer scientist or an IT person, IMHO.

Another thing I see is that several interpreters assume the top is ternary coded, i.e 323233331112132. It could be binary with the spaces representing zeros as well, i.e 1110 1101 1011 1011 1011. Just a thought.

Furthermore, if we have a binary code: it should be counted as zeros. That explains why 0xA and 0×1 are not represented: there would be three white spaces in a row.
If correct, it could be interesting to know if the writer was left or right handed, to help in finding consecutives blanks.
After that, it remains many problems: are blank ones or zeros?
I suggest simple ascii, since it seems that we often have an under or equal to 7 value as first digit if i read correctly.
I’m off, but in ruby script language, use ["01110110111..."].pack(“b*”) and you’ll might get it. But i’m not sure of that. Maybe a love letter to a geek ?

I don’t believe that the top section is sets of ternary values. There are spaces at the front of lines 2, 4 and 5 indicating that the appearance of a space is important. Could this indent be separating certain lines into paragraphs? Unlikely I believe.

Perhaps the top section is actually a stream of ticks and no tick indicates the lack of a tick. Breaking the top line into equally spaced columns would give 56 binary slots.

It is very curious that the code in the middle doesn’t contain a marking for 1 or A (1 and 10 in base 10).

Another point, what utensil was used to make these markings and on what surface!? These are too irregular to be made by a ballpoint pen on a desk. They look very irregular, and seemingly done by hand if you consider the tails on 3 or 4 of the ticks in the third block. My best guess would be some sort of fountain pen or if made recently a rollerball.

I believe the right leaning stroke of the ticks also indicates a left handed person. This could be wrong tho.

Due to the irregularities in each stroke it looks as if each stroke was performed very slowly and deliberately. You can tell the person is getting impatient or tired near the end where the tails on a few ticks show up. The length of the lines gets shorter and shorter in the third block as well.

The code in the middle is very curious. 3 of the symbols have dots somewhere in them. Some of the dots are just photocopy artifacts but the E, 5 and 8 symbols have deliberate dot marks. The O above the 5 has a small line on the right side and a dot above it outside the circle. The 8 looking symbols have inner circles and an attempt was made to connect it to the outside circle in the second one. Perhaps after the inner circle was drawn slightly incorrectly and since the spacing was important a small mark was made to join it to the outside circle.

The second symbol pair (the “i” with a zero below) is interesting. The line through the zero indicates that the writer either had greek or a math background or this was done in a language that needs to differentiate between an O (oh) and a 0 (zero). Also since the letter came from Chicago the language could very well be English.

As for what it all means? I haven’t the foggiest.

Look at the page sideways (clockwise)…

Looks like “Hi”

Could be a clue?

Rotate the page, and you have not 8 trinary lines, but about thirty 8-bit binary lines.

the spacial orientation of the top markings seems significant based on indentation. If you count the space between each line and don’t focus on the lines you get something like morse code, I just glanced at ti quick, but if you assume the first area is a dash and you increment the distances between each letter N+1 < 3 I think the first part comes out to “Dear” My morse is long gone now though. Just a thought – watch the spaces not the lines.

Tell me someone saved the envelope, I hear that paper picks up fingerprints well.

The middle pictograms don’t make sense unless:

1) They are used to produce the output (i.e. some form of composite picture using the symbols). In that case the top and bottom could be the encoded message and the pictures the key. The problem with this approach is that it doesn’t explain why several symbols are repeated in the middle section. If it was just a key each symbol should only need to be presented once.

3) There are supposed to be more letters – using the pictograms. Or some external connection to the pictograms is needed.

4) The top and bottom are some form of encoding of an image or sequence of images that in a crude form show a sequence of pictograms. I find this unlikely though as the symbols are complex and there is a small amount of data in the top and bottom fields.

5) It’s just a prank altogether, or at least the middle section is a diversion that is not connected to the upper and lower sections.

the last part of the code is definitely written in ternary
if you take the || symbols as separators then count the single |s you get this sequence:
312111121113123221312312333112213111332312233333332331231231312333231133223232312312112
with 87 digits.
From the top you got this sequence:
32323333111213233323132212331211133113231223333321212321311331133331333111121133332323221123231333112123133231312
with 113 digits, so both comprise a 200 digit ternary sequence which can be concatenated because of lots of internal repeatings of strings etc…
the next step would be to decode it using the hex key in the middle

some brains at slashdot.org believe they have solved it to a point:

Stanza 1 -> “frank shoemaker would call this noise”
Stanza 3 -> “employee number basse 16″
Middle: probably an employee number, Base 16

http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=555280&cid=23442034

Solved. Check the slashdot comments:

Stanza 1 -> “frank shoemaker would call this noise”
Stanza 3 -> “employee number basse 16″
Middle: probably an employee number, Base 16

Using a base 3 code, let
000=space
001=a
002=b
010=c
…
220=x
221=y
222=z

If |||=0, |=1, ||=2, then the first section can be rewritten as:
020 200 001 112 102 000 201 022 120 012 111 001 102 012 200 000 212 120 210 110 011 000 010 001 211 211 000 202 022 100 201 000 112 120 100 201 012
(errata: the line break at the end of line 6 has broken a symbol in two, and one of the symbols in line five is wrong)
Then the first section reads:
“Frank Shoemaker would call this noise”.

In the last section, the double bar is a gap between symbols. Again, |||=0, |=1, and ||=2. The last section can be rewritten as:
012 111 121 110 120 221 012 012 000 112 210 111 002 012 200 000 002 001 201 201 012 000 201 100 220 202 012 012 112
(errata: the line break at the end of line 2 has broken a symbol in two, and there is a duplication of a whole triad in line 5)
Then the last section reads:
“employee number base 16″

Presumably the three symbols before the last section is the employee number of the author (S252 in base 16).

Not sure about the middle section (apart from it acting as a decoder for the employee number).

Have you tried looking at it at a sharp angle from the top?

The supposed “key” is intriguing.. if it’s a lookup table, why tell us three times each what the symbols are for 6,E and F? and twice each for 2,3,9 and D? It may be significant.. If you map out an occurrance chart:
F = 3
E = 3
D = 2
C = 1
B = 1
A = 0
9 = 2
8 = 1
7 = 1
6 = 3
5 = 1
4 = 1
3 = 2
2 = 2
1 = 0
0 = 1

now suppose the entries in the “tick mark paragraphs” indicate choices. So the top paragraph starts with 3232333311… so (6|e|f)(2|3|9|D)(6|E|F)(2|3|9|D)(6|E|F) (6|E|F)(6|E|F)(6|E|F)(0|4|5|7|8|b|c)(0|4|5|7|8|b|c). Of course, there’d be many possible ways to group these, but assuming every 2 is a nibble in a byte, then you could start spelling things out.. for example: 69 6d 6e 6f 74 (imnot, or “im not”). It’s 1:30 am and I’ve had enough fun..

Maybe just a piece of music

It might be that the top two parts are a a “Rosetta Stone”, the same phrases in the same order, to teach mapping from the vertical stroke language to the hex/symbol language.

And then the real message is in strokes down below, first to be translated to hex/symbols, and then to … ?

The complete answer to this puzzle is :

FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE
(hexadecimal code)
EMPLOYEE NUMBER BASSE SIXTEEN

First section : substitute ‘|||’ with ’0′, ‘|’ with ’1′ and ‘||’ with ’2′ (note that some ‘|’ are incorrectly grouped) then decode 000=” “, 001=”a”, 002=”b”, 010=”c”, etc. (= alphabetical order in base 3)

Third section : count the number of ‘|’ between ‘||’ and do the same decoding

My guess is the the employee with ID 2812 (AFC in hex) worked on the AFC, the absorber focus coil – a coincidence Shoemaker would have called noise.

http://www.gmilburn.ca/2008/05/17/fermilabs-strange-letter-progress/

I noticed that there are 8 rows of symbols in the first ‘paragraph’

The fact that the rows don’t start off vertically aligned made me think that the symbols are in vertical clusters instead of horizontal.

Vertical combinations give:
A7,FF,D9,7E,83,FF,51,FE,
87,FD,7A,FF,87,7D,FA,AD,
D6,6F,DB,BD,C6,3F,EA,FD,
D7,2A,F6,DC,BE,68,F6,1C,
EA,1E,E4,7E,98,FE,66,D8,
26,E6,FA,C0,3C,F2,BC

I’m not sure if I lined up the last 7 characters right or not.

It is gibberish in ASCII, but it breaks away from the base 3 pattern everyone is looking for.

I haven’t tried the third paragraph yet.

try finding the alt code for the middle symbols

I have to agree that there is something more to the symbols.

I would like to agree with noll and say that there is something more to the code, but

Frank Shoemaker was a Princeton prof who did/does (I’m not sure) work at Fermi Lab on Magnetics (I think)

The Greek letter Phi is a symbol for magnetic flux.

Wonder if this is a something that the author thought Shoemaker would have ignored, but the author thinks is more than just noise?

Well.

(F0BE58F2FD63)16 is (1021201020002210220002102012212)3
and
(6C79D2E493E6)16 is (120122022010222011200012221210)3

But i can’t decrypt it using same way. Am i going in wrong direction? lol

Ok, i made something interesting, but i can’t estimate what the result is.

How to do it: take 1st symbol of 1st row of middle section of the letter (which is “F”), and “sum” it with 2nd symbol of 2nd row (which is “C”); continue to do the same moving right. Last, 12th, byte will be “36″, – “sum” of the last symbol of the 1st row and 1st symbol of the 2nd row.

Why to combine HEX symbols in such a way? Well, since last, 3rd row of middle section is: “s F C”, which could be interpreted as “sum F and C”, which leads to described combinations.

Resulted string of data: FC 07 B9 ED 52 8E F4 29 F3 DE 66 36 – was inserted into separate file named 1.com, saved, then that .com file was launched from windows’s CMD in this manner: “1.com > 1_report.txt”. Error on launch was ignored. Resulting 1_report.txt file is 770 bytes, i have no idea at all what this data is (but i really can see that certain parts of that file are NOT purely random, since some structure is there).

Using Funduc software Hex editor, i made HEX dump of the 1_report.txt file. Here it is:

000000 b8 ff ff 50 50 eb 02 37 02 80 7c 01 3a 75 06 26 83 06 37 02 ёяяPPл.7..|.:u.&..7.
000014 02 ac aa 0a c0 75 fa 26 89 3e 98 02 26 ff 0e 98 02 26 8a 26 .¬Є.Аuъ&.>..&я…&.&
000028 a1 02 80 c4 40 26 88 26 3c 02 e8 5b 02 e8 9b 03 0e 1f 80 3e Ў..Д@&.&
00003c b0 02 00 74 0c 50 ba 58 02 eb 93 81 3e bc 23 08 23 75 03 eb °..t.PєX.л..>ј#.#u.л
000050 75 90 81 3e bc 23 fc 22 75 03 eb 7f 90 81 3e bc 23 14 23 75 u..>ј#ь”u.л…>ј#.#u
000064 03 e9 ab 00 81 3e bc 23 39 23 75 03 e9 c4 00 81 3e bc 23 6b .й«..>ј#9#u.йД..>ј#k
000078 23 75 03 e9 b1 00 81 3e bc 23 77 23 75 03 e9 a3 00 81 3e bc #u.й±..>ј#w#u.йЈ..>ј
00008c 23 20 23 75 03 e9 b4 00 81 3e bc 23 83 23 75 03 e9 e5 00 81 # #u.йґ..>ј#.#u.йе..
0000a0 3e bc 23 91 23 75 03 e9 c2 00 81 3e bc 23 45 23 75 03 e9 ba >ј#‘#u.йВ..>ј#E#u.йє
0000b4 00 81 3e bc 23 aa 23 75 03 e9 c7 00 e9 ca 00 e9 d1 01 80 3e ..>ј#Є#u.йЗ.йК.йС..>
0000c8 b6 02 ff 75 06 b8 01 00 e9 29 ff c6 06 b6 02 ff e9 ff fe 80 ¶.яu.ё..й)яЖ.¶.яйяю.
0000dc 3e b0 02 00 74 06 b8 01 00 e9 14 ff fe 06 b0 02 c7 06 4d 02 >°..t.ё..й.яю.°.З.M.
0000f0 7f 01 8c 1e 4f 02 81 3e bc 23 6b 23 75 03 e9 96 01 80 3e 7d ….O..>ј#k#u.й…>}
000104 22 ff 75 05 c6 06 7d 22 00 e9 ca fe e9 84 01 80 3e c2 22 00 “яu.Ж.}”.йКюй…>В”.
000118 74 06 b8 01 00 e9 dc fe fe 06 c2 22 c6 06 7d 22 01 e9 ae fe t.ё..йЬюю.В”Ж.}”.й®ю
00012c e9 ab fe c6 06 b3 02 01 eb 01 90 89 36 b1 02 c6 06 b0 02 00 й«юЖ.і..л…6±.Ж.°..
000140 c6 81 3e bc 23 fc 22 75 03 eb 7f 90 81 3e bc 23 14 23 75 03 Ж.>ј#ь”u.л…>ј#.#u.
000154 e9 ab 00 81 3e bc 23 39 23 75 03 e9 c4 00 81 3e bc 23 6b 23 й«..>ј#9#u.йД..>ј#k#
000168 75 03 e9 b1 00 81 3e bc 23 77 23 75 03 e9 a3 00 81 3e bc 23 u.й±..>ј#w#u.йЈ..>ј#
00017c 20 23 75 03 e9 b4 00 81 3e bc 23 83 23 75 03 e9 e5 00 81 3e #u.йґ..>ј#.#u.йе..>
000190 bc 23 91 23 75 03 e9 c2 00 81 3e bc 23 45 23 75 03 e9 ba 00 ј#‘#u.йВ..>ј#E#u.йє.
0001a4 81 3e bc 23 aa 23 75 03 e9 c7 00 e9 ca 00 e9 d1 01 80 3e b6 .>ј#Є#u.йЗ.йК.йС..>¶
0001b8 02 ff 75 06 b8 01 00 e9 29 ff c6 06 b6 02 ff e9 ff fe 80 3e .яu.ё..й)яЖ.¶.яйяю.>
0001cc b0 02 00 74 06 23 6b 23 75 03 e9 b1 00 81 3e bc 23 77 23 75 °..t.#k#u.й±..>ј#w#u
0001e0 03 e9 a3 00 81 3e bc 23 20 23 75 03 e9 b4 00 81 3e bc 23 83 .йЈ..>ј# #u.йґ..>ј#.
0001f4 23 75 03 e9 e5 00 81 3e bc 23 91 23 75 03 e9 c2 00 81 3e bc #u.йе..>ј#‘#u.йВ..>ј
000208 23 45 23 75 03 e9 ba 00 81 3e bc 23 aa 23 75 03 e9 c7 00 e9 #E#u.йє..>ј#Є#u.йЗ.й
00021c ca 00 e9 d1 01 80 3e b6 02 ff 75 06 b8 01 00 e9 29 ff c6 06 К.йС..>¶.яu.ё..й)яЖ.
000230 b6 02 ff e9 ff fe 80 3e b0 02 00 74 06 b8 01 00 e9 14 ff fe ¶.яйяю.>°..t.ё..й.яю
000244 06 b0 02 c7 06 4d 02 7f 01 8c 1e 4f 02 81 3e bc 23 6b 23 75 .°.З.M…..O..>ј#k#u
000258 03 e9 96 01 80 3e 7d 22 ff 75 05 c6 06 7d 22 00 e9 ca fe e9 .й…>}”яu.Ж.}”.йКюй
00026c 84 01 80 3e c2 22 00 74 06 b8 01 00 e9 dc fe fe 06 c2 22 c6 …>В”.t.ё..йЬюю.В”Ж
000280 06 7d 22 01 e9 ae fe e9 ab fe c6 06 b3 03 e9 a3 00 81 3e bc .}”.й®юй«юЖ.і.йЈ..>ј
000294 23 20 23 75 03 e9 b4 00 81 3e bc 23 83 23 75 03 e9 e5 00 81 # #u.йґ..>ј#.#u.йе..
0002a8 3e bc 23 91 23 75 03 e9 c2 00 81 3e bc 23 45 23 75 03 e9 ba >ј#‘#u.йВ..>ј#E#u.йє
0002bc 00 81 3e bc 23 aa 23 75 03 e9 c7 00 e9 ca 00 e9 d1 01 80 3e ..>ј#Є#u.йЗ.йК.йС..>
0002d0 b6 02 ff 75 06 b8 01 00 e9 29 ff c6 06 b6 02 ff e9 ff fe 80 ¶.яu.ё..й)яЖ.¶.яйяю.
0002e4 3e b0 02 00 74 06 b8 01 00 e9 14 ff fe 06 b0 02 c7 06 4d 02 >°..t.ё..й.яю.°.З.M.
0002f8 7f 01 8c 1e 4f 02 81 3e bc 23 ….O..>ј#

Cheers.

There is no need to keep speculating on the first and third ciphers – they have been solved!

The second one has not, however. The ‘S’ symbol on the third line could be 1 or A, as neither of these are used in the previous two lines. But what do those two lines mean?

Facts:
-The letter was received on the 5th of March 2007.

-The author is critical about something – could it be some new experimental data?

-Employee number for identification purposes – after all a cipher author wants his work to be matched to him when its decoded.

What happened on or before 5th of March 2007?

I came up with an article in Fermilab Today about some data from the HyperCP experiments ‘hinting’ at the existence of the Higgs boson (http://www.fnal.gov/pub/today/archive_2007/today07-03-07.html). Its conceivable that the author was part of the very same experiment and privy to the data, which would have been gathered a few days back.

I took me several weeks to break this code, but I am 100% sure that I’ve done it! Below is the deciphered code:

DEAR SIR,

CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL

HAVING CONSULTED WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND BASED ON THE INFORMATION GATHERED FROM THE NIGERIAN CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO REQUEST FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE TO TRANSFER THE SUM OF $47,500,000.00 (FORTY SEVEN MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS) INTO YOUR ACCOUNTS. THE ABOVE SUM RESULTED FROM AN OVER-INVOICED CONTRACT, EXECUTED COMMISSIONED AND PAID FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS (5) AGO BY A FOREIGN CONTRACTOR. THIS ACTION WAS HOWEVER INTENTIONAL AND SINCE THEN THE FUND HAS BEEN IN A SUSPENSE ACCOUNT AT THE CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA APEX BANK.

WE ARE NOW READY TO TRANSFER THE FUND OVERSEAS AND THAT IS WHERE YOU COME IN. IT IS IMPORTANT TO INFORM YOU THAT AS CIVIL SERVANTS, WE ARE FORBIDDEN TO OPERATE A FOREIGN ACCOUNT; THAT IS WHY WE REQUIRE YOUR ASSISTANCE. THE TOTAL SUM WILL BE SHARED AS FOLLOWS: 70% FOR US, 25% FOR YOU AND 5% FOR LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL EXPENSES INCIDENT TO THE TRANSFER.

THE TRANSFER IS RISK FREE ON BOTH SIDES. I AM AN ACCOUNTANT WITH THE NIGERIAN NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION (NNPC). IF YOU FIND THIS PROPOSAL ACCEPTABLE, WE SHALL REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS:

(A) YOUR BANKER’S NAME, TELEPHONE, ACCOUNT AND FAX NUMBERS.

(B) YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS — FOR CONFIDENTIALITY AND EASY COMMUNICATION.

(C) YOUR LETTER-HEADED PAPER STAMPED AND SIGNED.

ALTERNATIVELY WE WILL FURNISH YOU WITH THE TEXT OF WHAT TO TYPE INTO YOUR LETTER-HEADED PAPER, ALONG WITH A BREAKDOWN EXPLAINING, COMPREHENSIVELY WHAT WE REQUIRE OF YOU. THE BUSINESS WILL TAKE US THIRTY (30) WORKING DAYS TO ACCOMPLISH.

PLEASE REPLY URGENTLY.

BEST REGARDS

Both Frank Shoemaker and Pierre Piroue are long-time friends and colleagues of mine (both retired from the Princeton Physics Department.) I spoke to both of them today. Both are amused by all of this, but both say they know nothing of this whatever (and I believe them).

Frank was the designer of the original Fermilab Main Ring of magnets (while on leave from Princeton), and, as mentioned, a collaborator on the Fermilab MiniBooNE experiment.

Pierre, by the way, checked and confirmed that his (long-dormant) Fermilab ID number is, indeed, 252.

[...] the 15th of May, Symmetry Breaking put out this call for help. It seems that the PR department of Fermilab received a (handwritten) letter in code. A high [...]

Oh well. Again: can anyone explain to me what these 770 bytes i got yesterday are?

I repeated procedure today, and once again i got very same 770 bytes file. Then i fixed length of 1 row in my HEX editor to be 16 bytes, printscreened all the data, and went to pbrush. I found that data have (no doubts) artificial structure, with some parts smaller and larger repeating, and with some unique (amongst these 770 bytes) parts.

I colored some bytes and uploaded the pic into imageshack.us service. You can see the pic here:

http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=report1yg1.gif .

So, once again. What the heck is these 770 bytes, obtained from executing .com file which was created directly from middle part of the letter?

With regards to the symbols in the center of the letter, on the 2nd line as people pointed out, the greek symbol PHI is shown with a ’7′ underneath and on another site (I don’t remember the URL) they said that the symbol above the ‘E’ was the backwards SGA symbol for ‘E’… in fact it’s the SGA symbol for ‘M’.

Now we have 2 letters from 2 different alphabets… I’m not saying that the HEX value underneath isn’t significant in some way… but what if the symbols represent letters from a variety of languages? (Past & present)

My theory:

This is deliberately only part of the puzzle. The middle part is probably a hash or checksum some sort. It was sent by someone connected to the company so they could, at some future date [possibly in court], prove their involvement in a project of some sort.

People do this in computer security sometimes: just send hashes to public mailing lists. At a a later point, they can use that to prove they had Some-FIle on Some-Date.

My guess is that if you correctly apply the key in the middle to the correct ID number, the symbols will draw the final message.

Maybe whoever sent this was trying to say that, random
data which would be called noise by shoemaker, can contain
information from outer space sent in the form of neutrinos.

Employee 11510, I believe.

or 11512? I’m tired. That’s my final guess today.

PJ, why do you think so? Opinions are nothing without resoning, you know.

There are abundance of certain bytes (like “23″, “3E” and few more), some areas repeat for 2 times or 3 times, there are really non-noisy-like sequance “FF FF 50 50″ at the start. I’m not software engineer, but i assume these could be “operating system standard sequences”, or whatever, no problem.

What made me really curious us that in very many places we see repeating of 3+ bytes sequences with a fixed, repeating cycle length of 17 bytes. I won’t mistake if i say that 17-bytes cycle (at least partial) is most frequent one in the file i got.

What makes me suspicious about the data i got is one common thing with other parts of the letter: some repeatable length (of the string / cycle) value, being not exactly “round” (16 is round number in HEX world), but very close to it.

Also, try to generate .com file using another manner of combination values from 2nd part of the letter, and you will see NOTHING in response. As far as i know, even most simple computer program perform several operations to produce some *output*, in certain order, and with certain rules. I can’t say what is probability of “random” sequence of bytes being able to output *anything* back to the screen, since, as i said, i’m not software engineer; but my “amateur” estimate, for now, is that such probability is “very low” tops, to “practically impossible” worst. In other words, i estimate such probability as something like 0.0001 or much less.

That’s why i’d like to know “why” the data i got seems being the noise to you, PJ.

Cheers.

when i was young, my grandfather would create puzzles using positive images. the solution to the puzzle wouldn’t be found in the positive, but instead the spaces between. a simple example would be to create “|_||__|||_|” the “|” symbol is a diversion from the truth. it’s the “_” that is important. he created these puzzles to train me to “read between the lines” as it were.

If we armed to a matrix, replacing the symbols ” |=1; ||=2; |||=3″ we will conform a matrix whose sum of the sum of columas=240 and the sum of the sum of the rows =240. This is irrelevant.

May 20th I posted that the BASSE misspelling could be either an indicator that the ternary decryption is a red herring, or more likely just a mistake. Upon closer examination, it’s definitely not a mistake — the author has left a clue that the misspelling is deliberate. Here’s how:

Many have noted that the layout of the upper section is very regular, following strict line lengths of 47 characters (strokes or spaces). The bottom section, however, is even more deliberate. Here there are 85 characters per line AND they are always right justified with a stroke in the last position. In order to achieve this, indentations of 0, 1 or 2 spaces occur at the beginning of each line.

The double S of BASSE occurs on the fifth line, and if you look closely you’ll see that a double space occurs after the first S, and there is a smaller than usual gap between the next two strokes. This is the only double space in the lower section, and yet it wasn’t strictly necessary in order to maintain the right justification — the author could have just added an extra leading space. He/she is clearly indicating that the misspelling is not accidental but deliberate.

Another oddity in the lower section is that the final line is indented two spaces (like the line above it). Why bother on an incomplete line? It suggests that the spacing is necessary for another part of the decryption. For example, the center glyph/hex codes may represent indices into the upper and lower sections (i.e. a book code), and the indices are position-sensitive.

Has anyone tried converting the hex to binary with spaces for zeros (the whole on off concept) to see if it makes sense?

|||| | ||||| | || ||||| |||||| ||| |||| || |||| ||| || ||| | | ||||||||

Probably not even close, but was a first glance reaction. *shrug*

PJ, thanks for the explanations of your PoV (point of view that is).

Answering your question: when i said “Resulted string of data: FC 07 B9 ED 52 8E F4 29 F3 DE 66 36 – was inserted into separate file named 1.com” – i meant using HEX editor. Result is the file 1.com with length of 12 bytes. If i would create a file typing ASCII symbols like “FC07B9…” (no spaces) or “FC 07 B9…” (with spaces), then file would have length of 24 bytes or 35 bytes accordingly, which is NOT the case. Also, it would be very rude mistake “in definitio”, since HEX codes are to be writtin in HEX form to *remain* HEX codes, right?

So, once again, surely i used HEX editor and wrote HEX codes just like they should be handled: in HEX form. I thought it’s obvious.

Your point about oh so many various processors is not so solid as you think, since Windows XP do NOT execute the code i give to it using Windows XP’s runtime routines: instead, windows call for compatibility program, named “haspdos.sys”. This program then execute .com file itself. So, in fact, we speak about DOS program (or at least “fake”-program). DOS-like operating systems are evolving for 20+ yaers now, and level of compatibility in DOS environments is much higher than in more widespread and complicated OSs like Windows XP. Also, DOS is rather simple environment, and as such support for it is often implemented into oh so various OSs.

Next, your point about little size of the program and inability to produce longer strings from shorter initial forms – is also at least disputable.

There’s computer .com virus with length of several dozen bytes. I can hand-write it into .txt file using windows notepad, save the file, rename it to .com and launch it, and then it will hit victim’s computer as well as other computers connected to 1st one. Another example is classic not-more-than-65Kb demoscenes, which are able to produce Gigabytes of output graphic data from their rather small initial code.

But your other statements are quite solid… Especially the one about coordinates. 12 bytes of data from middle section of the letter, in my version being HEX “FC 07 B9 ED 52 8E F4 29 F3 DE 66 36″, could be interpreted as 4 bytes for each of 3 physical dimensions, which would produce extremely precise coordinating… Or, it also could be interpreted as 3 bytes for each of 3 physical dimensions, plus 3 more bytes for *time*. And that already would be “somewhere, somewhen”, still with very good precision.

Interesting.

Try changing the HEX to TRI space with bars within every 2nd letter and ignore any numbers you come across within those bars and that should give you a clue… further more i have come up with a partial decypher… food seems to be of importance to our “John Doe”. Funny since i’ve spent countless hours attempting to break the code on this seemingly pointless yet interesting message, if it could be called such a thing. Pointless at times seeing as if you apply arithmatic to cracking the letters and vice versa then you’ll come up with more than just “aithdgcsln” nonsense.

Aleksey, here’s an IA-32 (x86) dissassembly of your code:

cld
pop %es
mov $0xf48e52ed,%ecx
sub %esi,%ebx
fisub 0×36(%esi)

This is garbage that does nothing useful, as expected. I seriously doubt that the section would be a computer program of any sort.

Ideas concerning transcription of the symbols are more interesting. Or the hex string could simply be an encryption key like some people have suggested.

No offense Aleksey, I don’t think you know much about computers

Hi David Harris and everyone !

Everybody seems to assume that every information on the letter is intentional. So you speculate on the importance of the extra “S” in “BASSE”.
But nobody so far has written anything about the graphical arrangement of the sections among each other (except me;-).

Please ask yourself : what is the importance of the blank sections on top and in the middle of the paper ?

And I again ask is it possible that there is information hidden (e.g. by using invisible ink)?
Please Dave, can you clear that matter for us by examining the ORIGINAL sheet of paper? Simply put a hot cup of coffee on top of it (the cup, not the coffee for a minute or so to heat it somewhat.

And I would like to get access to a scan image of the original sheet. I tried to look at the color separations separately (red, green, blue) of the available scan image but, alas, to no avail. I simply do not know what is noise from the fax and what may be useful information. Ah, and make it a color scan. A greyscale scan is not what I need.

Regards
tc

P.S. to Aleksey : your attempt is to far fetched. Sections 1 and 3 were solved with simple methods. Section 2 has to be solved in a similar easy way, because the writer wants to be understood !! It makes no sense to cypher the second section as machine code without any hint to the receiver about doing so.

Just something I’d like to mention that I’ve not seen others talk about. The stuff in the middle could be high/low on top of each other.

F0BE58F2FD63
6C79D2E493E6

F6 0C B7 E9 5D 82 FE 24 F9 D3 6E 36
246 12 183 233 53 93 254 36 249 211 110 54

If I did the conversions right… Which also happens to be 64 bits. (Back in my day.. We were happy to have 64 bit encryption and we liked it, up hill, both ways, in 3 feet of snow.)

1111011000001100101101111110100101011101100000101111111000100100

Also a pattern of big small is in the numbers…
BsBBss BsBBss (more then 128 or less then 128)

BSBBSSBSBBSS 866 one of the Short touches of Grandsire Triples… Any of this ring a bell for anyone? (heh) Bell ringing? There is a ‘bell tower’ listed as being at Fermilab. Our dear Frank Shoemaker might consider bells to be ‘noise’.

So many things it could be… The human mind LOVES to find patterns…

Has anyone considered treating the “trinary”/”binary” sets as a handwritten black & white bitmap?

I mapped out the top section using excel for a sense of character placement, and, assuming the period was intentional, the full string length was 361 (19^2). I’m going to try drawing the image as a 19×19 bw bitmap (MS Paint) so that I can play with it.

(Just another way to look at this)

Aleksey,

I have to correct you here:

> 1. Sections 1 and 3 were NOT solved with simple methods;
> people who solved them used SCRIPT (computer program),
> which made billions of calculations before finding some
> promising letter-replacing pattern. So, you are wrong
> here.

You are quite mistaken. I solved the top code in 10 minutes with pen and paper, immediately recognizing it as a base-3 code. It is quite trivial and a common cryptographic coding approach, and certainly requires no computer. The bottom code took longer — about 30 minutes, only because it took time to recognize that the double-strokes were character breaks. Otherwise, it was no more difficult than the top. I’m quite sure that the first person to solve these parts did so even faster than I did, and did so without a computer. –Rob

Aleksey, my opinion:

1) Although it’s not me who decoded section 1 et 3, they were more “encoded” than cyphered. The encoding method was relatively simple. The amount of computer calculation (not much actually!) that was needed is irrelevant.

2) The author should have the desire to be understood because his message precisely is a message. It’s an enigma to be solved.
If the guy didn’t want to be understood, he would have prefered real, strong and reputed encryption algorithms such as the ones provided by PGP (e.g. DES, Blowfish, etc…).
Moreover, he sent this to a wide audience at the fermilab, so it shouldn’t be for himself for remembering his passwords, for example.

3 and 4) Hex doesn’t imply computer code, it’s just a convenient way to represent binary and binary is universal… Imho, it just shows that the guy knows base sixteen, in addition to base two and to base three. Great chances are he’s some scientist, so he’s educated…
I think you couldn’t expect much from it, if second section was cpu code, much less than “hello world”. And it should at least be hosted in another program to work, like “good old” DOS virus routines you’re talking about (and like real virii btw). Anyway, personally, I don’t feel it, it would be inelegant…

If you want, you still can try it as java or perl bytecode. But frankly, I don’t think the guy who wrote this is a computer geek, a techie…

Eric

@Aleksey
FWIW, this crypto (if it can really be classified as a crypto, not sure..) can also be cracked using computer scripts and massive computation:
!seineew era sreenigne epacsteN

I doesn’t make it any less trivial for a ten year old with a pen and some paper to crack, though.

Then again, just because parts 1 and 3 are “easy” doesn’t mean 2 has to be trivial as well. It clearly isn’t easy as in obvious or it would have been cracked by now, considering it took half an hour or so th crack the others.

Hrm.. or Maybe not.

debofklingon@MHB

More random letters trying to make a pattern there of… Grr.

Hrm. Seems my software likes to eat bits.
It’s safer to ignore anything i’ve posted, unless it inspires you to double-check output.

*sad sigh*

Anyways, we still have middle section not solved, eh?

I got a thought: since section 3 is coded using same logic (but with a different symbol’s layout), perhaps middle section is also coded using same logic – and again, another symbol system.

Perhaps after some convertions that HEX could turn into same system of lines and spaces, that is. 96 bits are quite enough for a few short words being coded there.

Basse means Lower or low in french

so maybe last part means: Employee number lower than 16?

Perhaps we should take the statement “employee number basse 16″ at face value. The assumption is that anyone who has devised such a code would have access to a spell checker.

We can then see a number of interesing items in a press release from CERN dated 22-Jun-07. This is a few days after the receipt of the original message but close enough in time for someone who might be familiar with the CERN operations.

“Le projet d’exploitation à basse énergie, prévu initialement pour cette année, a été abandonné en raison de plusieurs petits retards accumulés au cours des derniers mois de l’installation et de la mise en service du LHC, auxquels est venue s’ajouter la défaillance en mars d’un des éléments de la machine lors d’un essai de pression. ”

Part of reason for abandoning the tests were due to some problems with the US component, “a magnet assembly known as the inner triplet.”

“En mars, un ensemble magnétique appelé triplet interne, fourni au CERN dans le cadre de la contribution des États-Unis au projet LHC, n’a pas résisté à un essai de pression. Un procédé de réparation a été défini et la réparation est en cours.”

The hypothesis is that some wag from CERN was tweaking his Fermilab counterparts by using a ternary code (triplet) to point to failures in the low energy (basse) run.

A number of people have tried to understand the last 3 symbols at the end of the middle section (the s followed by the F C) as either the missing 1 or 10. Taking the s at face value, might assume that this is a signature (s=signed) F (=Fermi) C (=Cern). The hypothesis is to match employee numbers at Fermi and CERN and see if there is any commonality.

The hypothesis for last part is that it is again a ternary code. The double || is the character marker which has the same function as the blank in the first part.

Although I suppose that the magic number could also be (1)(15)(12) = 508, if we assume that the digits, in order, are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F. In my last comment, I was somewhat counter-intuitively assuming that they were 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 A B C D E F.

has anyone thought of this simple connection to the misspelling?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basse-Normandie

This is great fun! I disagree with the decoding of the first section so far because from what I read by neonsignal it requires you to assume there are “errors” in the bit. But if you look very closely at the top part it looks as though it was done in columns on purpose. Going so far as to add extra spaces at times to make sure they line up. Here is what it looks like typed out in an editor (I have no idea if this will render correctly on the site):

||| || ||| || ||| ||| ||| ||| | | | || | ||| ||
||| ||| ||| || ||| | ||| || || | || ||| ||| |
|| | | | ||| ||| | | ||| || ||| | || || ||| |||
||| ||| ||| || | || | || ||| || | ||| | | |||
||| | | ||| ||| ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | | | |
|| | | ||| ||| ||| ||| || ||| || ||| || || | |
|| ||| || ||| | ||| ||| ||| | | || | || ||| |
||| ||| || ||| | ||| | ||

Best to look at that with a monospaced font. To me the assumption “the line break at the end of line 6 has broken a symbol in two, and one of the symbols in line five is wrong” part makes me highly doubt the decoding (not that I am a code breaker or anything ).

[...] mystery continues here. addthis_url = ‘http%3A%2F%2Fstelpavlou.com%2Fwordpress%2F%3Fp%3D83′; addthis_title = [...]

Don’t know if this helps or not, but could this be from the Raëlians (the group who claimed to have cloned a human back in 2002)? In the fall of 2006 I was taking an elementary particle physics course with professor Kevin Pitts (who is also a physicist at Fermi Lab) and he said that he received a letter from them saying that Fermilab should cease particle collisions because they believed that subatomic particles were actually little worlds or universes or something like that with sentient beings. This easily looks like something they would do, since they’re into aliens and other sorts of weird stuff. Just an idea.

I think the middle part with the triangles and circles is a map utilizing distance and trajectory.

I know I will sound crazy for saying this but all of the symbols in the middle area have at one time or another been found within a crop circle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circle I know…stop laughing. But seriously, a lot of the crop circle designs have real mathematical theories within them. It is really not as far fetched as you might think.

http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/index.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=y44DAAAACAAJ&dq=crop+circles

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It would appear no one has checked the claimed solutions. To start with there are 113 marks, to get to the shoemaker sentence, not only do we have to change some of the values, we also have to either add another mark, or remove two, probably somewhere between chatacters 23 and 31.

I find it disappointing people have taken each proposed solution at face value, even if they do appear to make sense. Just because it’s been wrapped up with “script” or “cipher” doesn’t mean we should take it as a given. This is what sparked my interest.

Here’s what we get without changing values or add/removing any marks:

01: 323 020 f
02: 233 200 r
03: 331 001 a
04: 112 112 n
05: 132 102 k
06: 333 000
07: 231 201 s
08: 322 022 h
09: 123 120 o
10: 312 012 e
11: 111 111 m
12: 331 001 a
13: 132 102 k
14: 312 012 e
15: 233 200 r
16: 333 000
17: 212 212 w
18: 123 120 o
19: 213 210 u
20: 113 110 l
21: 311 011 d
22: 333 000
23: 313 010 c
24: 331 001 a
25: 111 111 m
26: 211 211 v
27: 333 000
28: 323 020 f
29: 232 202 t
30: 211 211 v
31: 232 202 t
32: 313 010 c
33: 331 001 a
34: 121 121 p
35: 231 201 s
36: 332 002 b
37: 313 010 c
38: [1, 2] <– oh look, two spares!

Line 38 are the two extras we have. Let’s assume we have a transcription error and add an extra digit after line 22:

17: 212 212 w
18: 123 120 o
19: 213 210 u
20: 113 110 l
21: 311 011 d
22: 333 000
23: 313 010 c
24: 331 001 a
25: 111 111 m
26: 211 211 v
27: 333 000
28: 132 102 k <— ’1′ pad added in here
29: 323 020 f
30: 221 221 y
31: 123 120 o
32: 231 201 s
33: 333 000
34: 112 112 n
35: 123 120 o
36: 133 100 i
37: 231 201 s
38: 312 012 e

Out pops the word “noise”, but the two “words” above aren’t “call this”. So do we throw away two marks to get 2 x 4 character words? “noise” will come out as soon as the number of marks divides by three, no magic values are involved.

From my experiments, I’m not convinced adding or removing marks for alignment will make any difference to the “call this” claim. If it’s is a cipher, how do we know it is 2 x 4 character word and not a 4 and a 5?

neosignal’s post looked to be the first thorough explanation, but it doesn’t seem to account for the discrepancy of not having the number of marks divisible by three. Plus the usage of ’010 001 211 211′ to make “call” isn’t right, it makes “cavv”. Looking at the source marks, we have “111 211″ for those too, so we’re looking at a value change on top of not matching what was claimed.

If anyone wants my noddy python code to play with, send me an email and I’ll send it over.

Tonyl, as I recall, the base assumption was that part of one letter triplet was carried over from the previous line merging those together produced the message as indicated.

The middle section are math functions, similar to what you would come across in Calculus.

Here is a small example of a small section I believe I have cracked.

Function
D = 0
As D -> Infinity

sqrt(6) (3 pi/4 radians)

Its difficult to read all of the operators correctly, I am sure that this is not yet correct, there appear to be 3 functions.

Does anybody else feel these are mathematical functions of some kind?

Tonyl,

If you look at the first section some of the rows are not indented. If we take that as an indicator that text from the previous line is not finished, then it does seem to map correctly.

Sort of like:

> 323 233 331 112 132
> 333 231 322 123 31
2 111 331 132 312 233
> 333 212 123 213 113
> 311 333 313 331 113
> 113 333 232 322 13
3 231 333 112 123 1
33 231 312

Strung out as a stream of data with the required 3 characters per unit:

323 233 331 112 132 333 231 322 123 312 111 331 132 312 233 333 212 123 213 113 311 333 313 331 113 113 333 232 322 133 231 333 112 123 133 231 312

Using the mapping: (I did not substitute the 3′s for 0′s as others have.)

333=space
331=A
332=B
313=C
311=D
312=E
323=F
321=G
322=H
133=I
131=J
132=K
113=L
111=M
112=N
123=O
121=P
122=Q
233=R
231=S
232=T
213=U
211=V
212=W
223=X
221=Y
222=Z

With the mapping applied:

FRANK 323 233 331 112 132
SHOE 333 231 322 123 312
MAKER 111 331 132 312 233
WOUL 333 212 123 213 113
D CAL 311 333 313 331 113
L THI 113 333 232 322 133
S NOI 231 333 112 123 133
SE 231 312

I hope this helps explain how people got where they got to?

If you find something else in first part that codes out to something else you are certainly more clever then many that are working on this. Most have assumed it’s the correct decoding.

It’d be neat if there was two message encoded into the cypher. Only visible on how you looked at the data layout. It was a line I did pursue, but couldn’t track anything down.

Take care!! Good Luck!

William

*** EDITOR/Moderator: Changed due to ‘spaces/white’ data being stripped – for clairification ***

Correction to part of my first reply:

Subtract all but smallest analog signal noise to get most unlikely constant.

“Cold Fusion” happening in deutirium froth only.

Probably meaningless, but:

In the word “BASSE”:
s = FC
FC in hex = 252
Use BASS without the E at the end and substitute 252 for each missing ‘S’:
BA252252 in hex = 312-299-5794 “the employee number”
(a phone # with Chicago area code)
This appears to be a pager #.

You could leave your return number and press pound…but I worry about bothering this person.
It’s probably just a random error anyway…they’re probably a busy physician or something that doesn’t want to be bothered. Anyone have the guts to see who this is and post back??

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Ok, after a day of thought, I have one last post with a full summary of my thoughts. Does this register with anyone else?

“FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE.”
“EMPLOYEE NUMBER BASSE SIXTEEN.”

..IS..

From the center section, the first two lines are key mapped to hex numerals, with the 3rd line being the employee #, or “message”.

Sym #1 = 0, because:
-In order for the sentence to be valid, one s should be dropped from “BASSE.” ie: it equals “NOISE”. The same should be done with Sym #1.
-BASSE = LOW in French. Note the existence of Basse-Normandie, aka “Lower Normandy” Zero is damn low, too.
-i and s are the only two keys that are also lower case letters (emphasis on “lower”) i = s = 0 = NOISE.
-A is another possibility for Sym #1, but I’m going with 0.

-Syms #2 and #3 are then straight mapped to f and c respectively using their keys. Sym #2 appears three times, with #3 once (*1).

-So, this forms 0fc hex or 252 dec.

As shown in a previous post, employee 00252V at Fermilab = “Pierre Piroue” He’s working on the Large Hadron Collider. His name is French, so the French use of “BASSE” should once again be noted.

-’fc’ could correspond to areas on the LHC. Just through examination of LHC imagry, it is *very* visibly divided into 16 distinct regions (look around the perimeters of the outer framing and inner “core”). This explains the use of hex. Positioning hex digits clockwise around the LHC (There is a noticeable area at the top of the “core” that I think should mark the location of zero) Regions f & c (again….the employee #) seem “special.”

-The original symbol for f is a counter clockwise pointing arrow. This could relate to the direction attached to position f. c should of course then be pointing clockwise (how does Sym #3 relate to direction?).

(*1): Could 3 and 1 represent settings of some sort? Beam crossing angles for f and c?

what an interesting subject this is…after seeing the article in my chicago tribune…i couldn’t help myself but to look at it

my first impression is that the decoding of the first and last stanza is correct…so i started looking at all things connected to fermilab and frank shoemaker which lead me to the LHC and many other things

in the sections containing the slashes the person wanted to make it alittle hard to figure out the code in base 3 so he/she goofed it up alittle

but the “basse” is correct…something was said that in french there is a word basse…maybe the author is learning french and is using it instead of the english word base…and maybe basse has two meanings

the double s (ss) could also mean that the old nazi symbol of ss… decoded further means “employee number ss 16″…in which the author of the note wanted to indicate a certian person…in addition to the fact that the author probably figured everyone would look at base 16 which is wrong

i would say the author does not know frank shoemaker but knows of him because it is obviously someone connected to fermilab, knows physics (in college terms I,II,III), and certian computer languages/code

the tribune article stated that the note was wrote in pen…which means the person practiced writing the note before writing the one that was sent out…which could also account for the mistakes in the slashes in the first and last stanzas…

now for the middle section…it is not hex, ancient hieroglyphics or abstract art…it is clues…just like the game “Clue”…anyone around here ever play it…one has to figure out who did by moving around the board and picking up clues…

whereas our board is Fermilab, anything connected to Frank Shoemaker and the person who wrote the note…including their connection to fermilab and chicago…

in this endeavor…i have learned quite alot in a short period of time…and it has been a learning experience…

first off, my first thought went to the dvd i had rented recently entitled “Angles, Demons, and Masons”…the first thing i had to do friday evening was go rerent the dvd…i knew there was some reference to this thing in switzerland…and the movie that is being made from this dvd/based on a book is refered to at the CERN website…i guess i was already thinkin in the right direction

that is all for now…have a good night…ravin

hi michael,

i think the middle section is the key to the purpose of the note…as one tries to decipher this note one has to have some type of working theory on it’s intended purpose…if i may…then i would like to start at that point…for i am not a particle physics person…yet, the person who wrote this note is

why is the person who wrote this a physics(particle) person u might ask…well, then one has to back track to the way this note was recieved and where

this blog covered some of those aspects such as it was addressed to Fermilab Kirk rd & Pine, it was an an envelope that pulled apart in order to open

well…the action of pulling apart the envelope was signifigant to the sender or the sender could have sent it in a regular type envelope…so this could signal the breaking apart of something

i did a search for Fermilab Kirk & Pine and it is the Fermilab library…this then indicates a student and the author wanting to suggust that Fermilab needs to study harder at their own “ideas” or needs to learn something

since fermilab is where this started my first stop was their website…which lead me to the lederman section and i enjoyed playing the physics games and it taught me some basics of physics

then, i did a search for this frank shoemaker which lead me to some christmas party pics and such things as that…it also lead me to the shoemaker/levy 9 episode and i realized that the diagram above the E in the middle section was the same angle as the comet hitting jupiter…whether or how much that had upon the authors intend in the diagram became the next question for that information

then, i moved on over to the LHC website from the fermilab website as it seemed to be what Fermilab and Shoemaker would be about…and so i read the current news stories on the site and then went to the full page of news links…looking basically for march of 2007

the first news links start at about august 2006 then April 2007 to a story about the magnets poles breaking and the gas leaking…which lead to the question is this note a prediction of the breakage

the question of a prediction has two parts…if the person was involved in the LHC and had a valid idea that this incident would happen why not write a “thesis” and submit it…why write an incripted message?

in addition…did the person submitt somekind of presentation that was dismissed which would lead to the decoded section “Frank Shoemaker would call this noise”…then the question becomes did this person want to ensure that something happened in order to feel smarter than everyone else feeling that noone could prove what caused the crash of the test

whatever those answer are…the middle section is not alien… a person designed the code with symbols that he/she knew should be appartent to anyone in the field and yet knowing that it would take some knowledge of the person writing it or having the “key” to the symbols in order to decipher the note…which could be why the author wanted the first and last part deciphered…because the other part is that person’s secret from everyone else

there is also the question that the middle section is not the answer to the whole crash problem but a distraction from it

now that i have covered what we don’t know…the next step is what isn’t there…whenever i take on a case after deciding what i don’t know i figure what isn’t there…those are tough question

since this is already long enough…i shall get to the decoding of the middle section in another post

ravin )

Can anyone tell me what this odd shaped structure is?

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.831668,-88.252168&spn=0.001437,0.003122&t=h&z=19

More interesting features of ATLAS and Beauvais that may be worth mentioning.

-As noted, the orange(ish) magnets on ATLAS look similar to the “support beams” at Beauvais. Both number eight in total. They seem to be positioned differently, though. Two groups of four at Beauvais, or 4^2.
-Beauvais’s black peak has 16 sides, or dimensions. The images I’ve seen of this aren’t very clear, unfortunately.
-Each piece of ATLAS’s external support structure (sorry, no idea what it’s actually called) is a symmetrical, 8 sided figure. Again, 4^2.
-There are 8 of these 8 sided structures. Same pattern.
-As noted, the calorimeter has 16 distinct “grooves” or areas.

Digesting information. I could maybe use some collaboration if anyone feels like playing along.

Matt79,

yes…i’m in…and havin the same problem as u…digestin information…i call it information overload

i hope u don’t mind my internet style of writing…i don’t have time to put things in proper sentences so i use the “…” as a form of break between thoughts

we both need some collaboration and u r doin a great job at trying to find a pattern to things

marston bates said in regards to research… “the process of going up alleys to see if they are blind”…all research has it’s value

the idea of the Beauvais Cathedral points in my direction of ss 16…i need to expand on my reasonin a little bit… as i said my first thoughts went to the dvd “angles, demons & masons” cause cern and the lhc were mentioned and much like shoemaker i dismissed it as ‘noise’…when it comes to conspiracy theories i’ve heard many

it seems as though the author of the note made the first and last sections to confound anyone trying to decode the message…granted…i did alot of lookin around as i formulated my ideas…and the author is very slick in wantin to achieve his purpose of being smarter than eveyone else…

“employee number basse 16″ certainly is not the author…the author wants his audience to go on a wild goose chase or maybe a scavenger hunt…so, i strip out the noise and came to ss 16…i thought what nazi 16 could mean…well…when deciding about Pope Benedict XVI he was repeatedly accused of being a nazi and the idea of france and the pope in a duel over cern sounded good to me…

what stood out to me…was that the author was an insider who would not believe that atlas is a doomsday machine…yet, if one wanted to cause a some havoc blame has to go somewhere…

ravin

I think I’ve solved it.

Notice at the bottom of the middle area, it has a letter “S” followed by a triangle and a lambda symbol. The triangle and lambda represent “F” and “C” respectively, according to the accompanying chart. Therefore, S = FC.

In the bottom part, it says “EMPLOYEE BASSE SIXTEEN”. That typo struck me as a little odd, until I compared it with the “S=FC” revelation. You can replace the letter S in “BASSE” with FC, and get the hex number BAFCFCE. There’s also the possibility that EMPLOYEE is a double entendre, meaning actually “EMPLOY EEBAFCFCE SIXTEEN”.

Using this logic, the employee number was either 196071374 (BAFCFCE in decimal) or 64083709902 (EEBAFCFCE in decimal).

Or if that doesn’t pan out, you could take the two numbers, convert them to trinary, and then see if a name pops out. I don’t have the resources handy at the moment to verify that, but it’s another line of thought that could be followed.

Hey Ravin,

Prior to this adventure, I had only briefly encountered Dan Brown’s work. I read the Davinci code several years ago, but since then I haven’t really picked up anything else related to “Angles, Demons and Masons.” I’ll have to read up on this.

I’ll post some more soon, hopefully.

Also note that (10^15)+21 has 16 digits:)

In the middle part, I think the first word is DIAMOND as in the DIAMOND Particle accelerator in the UK. So.. F=D, 0=I, B=A, E=M, 5=O, 8=N, and F=D. Unknown if the >2 is a word seperator. That would start the next word with a D also, and the third word (or fourth if the line terminates a word) starts with M…. so maybe DIAMOND D??? ????? M???M?

backtracking a bit now. If we take the original, 3 symbol message from the 2nd stanza, and assume that s=1, we get 1FC. Converted from hex, this is 508… http://www.section508.gov

Are we done?

One more post this morn, hoping to clarify the possible tie between the GR and s=1.

Any thoughts?

http://fermi16.googlepages.com/home

Hey Ravin,

Feel like discussing this via IM, so we don’t have to wait for the fine Fermi folks to mod our posts?

“my user name here” at gmail.com

Anyone else is welcome too.

perhaps everyone is tryint to be too analytical with this. it’s obviously a fun thing, not a secret formula for cold fusion or anything like that. and it’s also likely that it’s from someone with personal knowledge of the early working of fermi lab or QM out of the 50′s and 60′s, perhaps earlier. and interesting thing that i didn’t see anyone notice is that the top line of hexidecimal adds up to 107, which is the atomic number for bohrium, and the bottom line is 99, which is einseinium. now they did have thier debates back in the day, and possibly there’s a corrilation there, as far as what 5fc or sfc has to do with that i don’t know. now maybe Frank Shoemaker has some personal opinion of the einstein-bohr debates, or was involved witht them or thier debates in some way. i’m personally not that old and only have 5 minutes before work is over to look into what’s available online. how about you people looking into the einstein-bohr connection and see what we come up with.

What does Badge Number 26-252 mean?

Matt,

If you are right about the zip code thing… could the middle part be an address of some sort?

Also, before I read all of the banter contained on this page I had assumed that the “S” in the bottom part of the middle bit of code represented either 1 or A in hex since neither of these appear in the code.

don’t have IM installed and don’t use it for that matter…

personally, i don’t think that this letter is a joke in the way that the note was received…

there is one thing i learned during college…notably, programming…KISS…Keep It Simple Smartie (or as some say Stupid)

i think if the author is going to give us a hint it will not be in the way that matt wants it to be…that is all i will say in that regards

the reason i brought up the shoemaker/levy incident is that the E with it’s diagram could represent and EVENT or EVENT ENERGY…but mostly event

If anyone that has a PHD or any other of these people that is thought to be the author of this note

Then the action would not be considered as something one would want to be remembered for

thus this note was wrote by someone who is implying that this note is not ‘noise’ and should be taken seriously…if it was a serious formula and not a threat then it wouldn’t be sent in this manner

about the IM…a friend of mine says he doesn’t run a corporation…no, he runs a shelter for wayward slackers who have to look up the big words in the dictionary…i said…bah humbug, i’ll play what i want!!!

Middle part doesn’t translate directly from HEX to binary to ASCII. Could be an offset? I’m too tired to follow it anymore but here’s the work I’ve done so far.

First two lines in byte to decimal:
240, 190, 88, 242, 253, 99
108, 121, 210, 228, 147, 230

AFC may be initials?

ASCII only goes up to 127 chars, so possibly extended ascii or unicode. Could be that it cycles. If you noticed the 88 and 99 could denote space giving the offset for the previous word, or some piece of the offset as 240-88 is still above 127.

Then again, I’m studying computer engineering, so that’s the lens with which I view it. Could be entirely unrelated.

Harry I also thought that it was unicode characters, but I did’nt find three characters:
+ the 8 with a 6 inside (corresponding to D)
+ the three circles with tha bar (corresponding to 4), not sure it’s a tar
+ the two small bars (9)

For the first one, I Googled it several times and find nothing. Does anyone know the names of these symbols ?

I’ve come at this via Digg and the Tribune article. Although I’m a physics fan, I don’t understand much about mathematical codes. However, I wonder if a low-tech approach to part of the puzzle should be considered.

Because the word choice is so restricted, the two phrases “Frank Shoemaker would call this noise” and “Employee number basse sixteen” immediately struck me as anagrams. Consider that if you’re writing a message in code, you could write any amount of words, not just these few.

The fact that in the “Shoemaker phrase” you can find the words CERN, FERMI, HICKS, HOLE, WORLD, RISK, etc., seems to me more than a cooincidence. So far, I have only found one sentence using all the letters that might possibly make sense:

“ASK CERN IF WE RISK A SOLO NLH HOLE”.

NLH would represent “nonlinear Hall”, but I have no idea if there is such a thing as a solo nlh hole!

Many interesting sentences can be constructed from the Shoemaker phrase but they have letters left over. If those letters make up names or technical terms, I probably wouldn’t recognize them.

Some of these (Shoemaker phrase) sentences include:

CERN is not safe
He knows a CERN trial is safe
he claims our world is not safe
Fermi should ask CERN how aliens talk
CERN is another madhouse
we risk a nonlocal hole
ask CERN if we risk holes

From the second phrase (employee number basse sixteen) one can make two words that seem very significant: PROBLEM EXAMINES (or, of course, EXAMINE PROBLEM). With the leftover letters I can’t get anything very sensible: butenes, eyes, etc. Again, if names or technical terms are included, I probably wouldn’t know them.

Given what seems to be the complexity of the code, it would not surprise me to learn there is more than one complete anagram for each phrase, or that those different anagrams were related. Or it may be that the sentences generate a certain number of words (from a mathematical formula?) that can be put into a paragraph form.

Thoughts, anyone?

There are what appear to be ink dots scattered throughout the page. Have those been discounted, or could they mean something as well? For instance, look at the difference between the three 6 characters in the center section. One has a dot underneath, the other two don’t. The E characters ALL have the dot, so it seems to be intentional for those.

Something far less convoluted and romantic…Hex mapped to dec in reverse.

0-15
1-14
2-13
3-12
4-11
5-10
6-9
7-8
8-7
9-6
a-5
b-4
c-3
d-2
e-1
f-0

Using this, f3c1 = 3134, which is Pa…Cl… in the Fermi directory.

Also, the 88 degree long coordinates I mentioned above, when wrapped around the earth’s circumference, sort of resemble a certain logo, don’t they?

http://fermi16.googlepages.com/atlas

Some more coordinates (sorry for the bombardment of posts). There’s still seven numbers that don’t resolve to a zip code

Ferimlab: 41N, 88W
Isle Royale: 48N, 88W
Cern: 46N, 6E

Shift hex table 0 times-62401-Effingham, IL 62401: 38N, 88W
Shift 1 time-1234
…2-5603-??
3-9972-??
4-14085-Lake View, NY 14085: 42N, 78W
5-18454-Poyntelle, PA 18454: 42N, 75W
6-22823-??
7-27192-??
8-31561-Georgia 31561: 31N, 81W
9-35930-??
10-40299-Louisville, KY 40299: 38N,85W
11-44668-??
12-49037-Battle Creek, Mi 49037: 42N, 85W
13-49310-Blanchard, MI 49310: 43N, 85W
14-53679-??
15-58032-Forman, N Dakota 58032: 46N, 97W

http://fermi16.googlepages.com/globe (possible alignment)

Harry and Vince,

I think Harry was saying that the 8 with a small circle in it could be the tar. As for the 3 circles figure, I found one that looks like it, but without the bar, but I didn’t write it down because it wasn’t an exact match. The trouble with Unicode is there are several possibities for some of the symbols. For instance, there are like 5 possible matches for the Phi symbol and the hyphen-looking character above the B could be a lot of different symbols in the table. The small “greater than” symbol above 2 could also match several different figures.

The large scan shows black dots that would at first seem like noise (from the scanner or the production of the paper) but seem to be deliberately put on the paper.
Some dots are also scattered about the cipher:
- first line of top part of cipher, below the third stroke of the first three stroke pattern (starting from the right)
- in the middle part of the cipher, the character on top of the 6; for the top line, it has a dot, the bottom line has two sixes that do not have a dot

maybe that’s what the top cipher is referring to? that the dots would be treated as just noise but if analyzed may yield something?

Also another thing I noticed, the character for 9 in the middle cipher made me look at parts of the pattern in the top and bottom cipher where this character “occurs”. For example:

(best viewed in courier font)
||| || ||| || ||| ||| ||| ||| | | | || | ||| ||
||| ||| ||| || ||| | ||| || || | || ||| ||| |
^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^

the ^^ marks the sections where the pattern appears, reading the cipher two lines at a time.

lokks to me two mad scientist just playing their version of “”Hangman”, so this must be a reply and the Parts 1 and 3 the attempts

sym one is noise, occurs zero times
sym two occurs three times
sym three occurs once

iii
i

from table 2 used in the top and bottom sections: http://www.gmilburn.ca/2008/05/17/fermilabs-strange-letter-progress/

iii=0
i=1

Employee 01, or Fermilab’s founder, Robert Wilson, who is still listed as an active “employee.”

The table is missing 8 digits, which would explain the reference to BASSE (the incomplete cathedral).

“Base 16″ was noise/misdirection all along…? Sigh.

Wow. Could the most obvious solution really be the right answer?:P…

Lastly, 01 maps to A in table #2. A search in the Fermi DB reveals employee 1A to be Mr. Wilson.

“FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE”
“EMPLOYEE NUMBER BASSE SIXTEEN”

Five Point Summary:

-sym 1 occurs 0 times
-sym 2 occurs iii times, which = 0 using table from first / second section
-sym 3 occurs i time, which = 1 using table from first / second section.
-Table two = BASSE (incomeplete cathedral) sixteen (196 digits missing, with a sum of 16)
-001 mapped using the newly named ‘BASSE 16 Table’ = 001A, and 001a = Robert Wilson, who is marked as an active “employee” in the Fermi Dir.

I was looking at a book on symbols and I found only four that were significant.

The symbol above the letter B stands for “passive, static”.

The symbol above the number 9 means “active, dynamic”, but only as a single line. The two lines could mean motion as well since it is active.

The dot symbol which is seen in several places means “unity, origin”.

And, finally, the symbol above the # 4 COULD be “Trefoil” which signifies knowledge. Alas, we see it as three circles with a line to the right of it, as if stopping it, therefore, stopping our knowledge.

Oh, sorry, when I wrote “top of the letter” I meant “middle”. Please forgive this lapsus. Nevertheless, I still think the symbols could be kryptonian. Maybe the author is not a code genious. Maybe he is just geek.

Actually, I tend to favor 8266 as the employee number, as I feel it is a more elegant solution. If this isn’t the answer, I strongly intuit that everything we need to solve it is in the puzzle already–we just need to apply logic, and possibly some mathematics to solve it.

I agree with one of the much earlier posts maybe it was ment to be read from a landscape view. Also “basse sixteen” could possibly refer to basse-normandie. Maybe Frank or one of his close colleagues was of french descent. (just a theory) I think we should look into the life of Frank and take clues from that.

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just a quick input, 12 digit HEX numbers are used for MAC addressing… anyone check the MAC addresses of the pc’s at fermilab?

WTF?

O.k.! back to serious! I also broke it down this way:

(in order as it appears on the paper)

F=3 0=1 B=1 E=3 5=1 8=1 F=3 2=2 F=3 D=2 6=3 3=2

6=3 C=1 7=1 9=2 D=2 2=2 E=3 4=1 9=2 3=2 E=3 6=3

BASICALLY, the number or letter corresponding to the symbol above it appears in the sequence how ever many times is after the equal sign.

I am sorry, I do not understand the hex system or else I could have deciphered it for you.

Maybe you can decipher the middle area just like you did the top and the bottom since they were in series of threes as well.

Here’s an online hexadecimal to decimal convertor if anyone wants one:

http://www.mathsisfun.com/binary-decimal-hexadecimal-converter.html

you might me unto something there
although i think it’s been explored already:
i’m new to crypt, so take with grain of salt.

311 311 323 232 -> 200 200 212 121 -> ssxq
311 222 312 233 -> 200 111 201 122 -> sntr
#data shifted so S=space??
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
p o ki wuy xstrdec hfabmnl

#becomes
me
thc

as in: i am T.H.C (author?)
or
“The Haldron Collider”

################################
#and keeping with S=space
S=space triangle=F and 3rd symbol=C

15*16 + 12 = 252 binary employee code
but then again why put me THC, but hex code for Pierre Piroué?

#hmm PP would be intials so what if S = P
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
uy xstrdec hfabmnlp o ki w

#becomes
ppin
pa?l

pin pal? that’s wierd….

making t=space=s?
so next line shifted by one?

TFC=SEB = EB = 14*16+11= 235 who has this number? is their initials T.H.C?

I broke it down this way as well:

From top to bottom, left to right, the first row is all the letters and numbers that appear once in the sequence. The second row, the letters appear twice. The third row, they appear thrice.

0 B 5 8 C 7 4

2 D 3 9 D 2 9 3

F E F F 6 6 E E 6

(The first row has 7 letters, second row has 8 letters, third row has nine letters=7,8 and 9th letters of the alphabet are not used BUT the numbers 7,8,9 are used)

Also, the symbols above the the letter B and the # 2, # 6 and the letter C are half the size of the rest of the symbols. The symbol above the # 9 is as tall as the rest of the symbols, but is broken. By joining the symbol above the B and the #9 we get B-9=benign(?)

I also broke it down this way:

From top to bottom, left to right, the first row shows the letters and #s that appear in the top row only. The second row shows the letters and #s that appear in BOTH rows and the last row shows the letters and #s that appear in the last row only.

F 0 B 5 8 = TOP ROW ONLY

E 2 D 6 3 = BOTH ROWS

C 7 9 4 = BOTTOM ROW ONLY

I think the symbols might be a way of connecting the letters and numbers to create a simplified sentence (example: F-8 = fate, B-9 = bening, 4-b =forbe

Did someone investigate the BAN logic possibility? BAN logic is used to check the validity of crypto protocols. In BAN logic, the triangle means “recieve the message “. So the last part of the message could mean “S receive the message …”.

Another idea is to decompose the symbol in elementary form:
Triangle = 2 bars = 11
i = .1
the symbol corresponding to 4 = three circles and a bar = 0001
and so on..

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The bottom part bugs me. I think the phrase “employee number basse sixteen”

Is wrong. Wouldn’t it be easier to just have an “#” symbol for instead of spelling

out “number”? And “Employee”? why? Lower sixteen employee #s?

Something is not connecting here and we are just accepting this a little too easily.

To Randall:

Wonderful!!! I looked at your star map!!! It was magnificent!! Although I do not think that it is as complex as that….I wish!

The apparent hex values in the middle section remind me of an image bitmap. I have tried a variety of decodings, but so far nothing has jumped out at me, such as an icon or image of writing. I took the middle part as a bit stream, either by rows (2 rows of 12 sets of 4 bits) or by columns (12 columns of 2 sets of 4 bits), reading the sets of 4 bits either hi-to-lo order or lo-to-hi. I then used those bits to fill rectangular bitmaps of varying dimensions from 1 x 96 to 96 x 1, in various orientations.

Are there other obvious image decodings that I may have missed? I am ignoring the symbols at this time–I didn’t see anything I could do with them along these lines.

to richard mcbroom,

i remember something about this sculpture…i just don’t have time for it…but since u brought it up..;))

just so u know i did a search and got the low down off wikipedia…

1)WW gets dragged into everything!!!

2)don’t them employees have anything better to do?

3)i knew it…the russians were involved!!!

so much for a little fun…now about ur observation…can it decipher the ‘kryptos’…i don’t know…but, since it was on the science part of PBS…maybe the author used that as a ‘foundation’ to create his cryptic language and note…

truly, my first thought upon seeing the whole note on this website…was the anthrax letter…not that it is the same person but that the author fashioned ‘his’ after it

i spent about 5 hours on a website today saving various parts that stuck out to me the last time i was over there….and well, this person has a post about the cia using psychics and how it is crackpot science and the news shouldn’t report it as science…

u may have something there

take care, ravin )

very good randall,

i finally printed a copy of the note…and i noticed that the middle – 58f2 and d2e4 – are closer together than the outer ones…this could of happened when the author wanted to fit the characters on the paper…or it could be something else

i seen an ariel pic of CERN in a pdf file and it was labeled atlas detector…so i did a search for pics of atlas then cern…i came up with a pic that is somewhat the same as the one i was looking for it is at

http://www.orbit.zkm.de/files/cern.jpg

the only difference is the other pic is exactly the same but on the white ring there are two areas on the ring that are heavily marked points in white and look like maybe that is where the two main magnet areas of the atlas are…

this pic/ring with points on it looks just like the diagram above the letter 5 with its two areas…in both pics the length between the points on the ring are the same

so, i concluded that the diagram above 5 represents the atlas detector and it points of magnets…which left me wondering what 5 represents…this is where “thuy” comes in

yesterday i was looking through a little book i have on measurements and conversions…in it is the table for chemical elements…atomic #5 is Boron

i did a search for boron and well it is used in pressurized water reactors and in nuclear reactors for emergency shutdowns more info at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boron

i also looked at other sites on boron….wiki pretty much covers it

so, when i seen thuym/thuy…i looked up the atomic table and found thulium atomic #69 is used in high temperature superconductors much like boron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thulium

the one thing that also needs addressed is the diagrams above the letters/numbers mean something…the author is telling us a story

this is long enough for now, ravin )

the top and bottom parts seem to be rhythmic……as if part of a song…..each line has the same number of beats..

mr.mcbroom,

i ran a search of ‘kjjk’ and ‘fermilab’ this was the result

http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/clcroct.html

http://www.tony5m17h.net/clcroct.html

personally, i don’t see the connection…ur theory doesn’t take into account when this letter arrived, who it was addressed to and what events occurred on, before or during that time

the only thing those links go to is the sexant navigational system developed by Barry Sexant and maybe that is where the star map mentioned earlier comes in…i’ll say the star map if it goes anywhere points to fermilab or cern

now, the author used a simple code for the slash stanzas stating the middle section is not noise

meaning that the symbols correspond to the characters underneath them

the most frequent pair used is the 6, F, & E so the 3 digit code used in the other stanzas is not correct

more so, the 6 has to versions leaving it’s frequency to 1 and 2

the F is clearly different in the first one…the other two in the line are the same but different than the first and the triangle without an F is different that the other three…leavin it as 1-2-maybe one

the E is the same throughout

so, if in the 6 there is a dot and that dot is not in the other 2, then what are the questions as to why?

well, considering this is more than likely to be directed at the LHC, ATLAS then

is the dot not in the two bottom sixes in indication that the first part is about seeing a ion particle and in the bottom section the ion particle isn’t there do to decay or breakdown of the machine?

and even still could the bottom sixes represent quotation marks around the bottom section or maybe brackets?

oh, yeah….the valdosta also discusses the first masonic lodge formed there by a black man…once again…blaming the freemasons

so, i will leave u with this advice

“Let no one mistake our confidence and goodwill for weakness. We’re not about to dismantle the intelligence capabilities that we’ve worked so hard to rebuild, but we must adapt them to new realities”

President George H.W. Bush
Remarks at the Veterans of the Office of Strategic Services dinner on October 23, 1991

have a good night, ravin )

seems ya’ll are overthinking this, how bout this one: if we look at two lines of middle seperatly we get reoccuraance PER line:

311 111 313 111 -> could be SARA (acromyn) or Sara (name)
211 211 212 122 -> could be @@MG or BB@C (@=space) usign different offset. just seems to be to little to go on.

mr. mcbroom,

ur theory doesn’t hold water…ur trying to say that someone deciphered the 4th phrase of the ‘kryptos’ and then wrote a short section in this letter using a partial of the key…and that u have decoded it using the 4th phrase in kyrptos and this letter to fermilab…

then u give us some half crackpot remnant for us to look at without telling us how u decoded it

for lack of a better word ur a crackpot…so is tony whatever his name is on that website

this is why ur theory doesn’t hold water

even if one adds the frequency of the 6,F,C and the D included in that theory it would enlarge the pool of characters to 19 which is the original 14 characters and 5 additional because 6,F,C and possibly D are different

the english alphabet has 26 characters, if one takes out the vowels it has 21 characters..some people say ‘y’ is a vowel and one could possibly take out ‘q’ leavin one with a 19 character set then add back the vowels to form words

even still…if one finds an alphabet made of of 19 characters or the key described above the frequency used of the characters does not amount to words…it would more or less be the whole alphabet thus making it noise

unless the author sent another message or plans on sending another message…considering this past march no letter (that the public is aware of) has arrived…(i am working on public knowledge for good or bad of it)

leavin this winter for the author to send another note…it is common sense that it was done during a time in chicago when wearing gloves isn’t out of the ordinary

which means if the author didn’t want to leave fingerprints…this letter isn’t about some darn theory they want credit for

one last thing mr. mcbroom…in 4th grade which was back in the 1970′s our teacher used to get old punch cards from IBM that she used in class as a form of money for us to earn and at the end of each semester we could buy different things with them…all kinds of stuff

in addition we learned about codes & punch cards…so, ur arrogrance is childish to me and so were ur websites

ravin

I apologize to anyone if I have seemed arrogant or too opinionated, as this was never my intent.

Indeed, I appreciate any expression of shared interest by the public or by organizations regarding these matters, as time will reveal all.

PS: Please check “Kryptos” on the “PBS” Discussions Forum, where there is a history leading to the Fermilab cipher (it has been a long trip).

Kryptos has nothing to do with this from what I can tell. I have considered many things when looking at the middle section. Mapping the chars to unicode. Simply taking the hex and substituting letters like a cryptogram… Many other things (of which some interesting patterns have shown themselves, have the file with all the info on my other PC. Will post more in the AM.) From what I can tell, this may be some sort of ternary again based on number of times the char correlating appears (1,2,3). The sfc could be an afterthought, such as space = f and c, swap f and c or second f is a c. The symbols could be their exact hex opposite, i.e. the symbol above F = 0. There are so many possibilities, it is just a matter of time.
Also of interest is there are 28 different characters. With the first and last parts requiring a space to be added to the alphabet, and F and C both mapping to alphabetic S (another possibility for SFC) you have 28 characters. Just a thought.

Are you sure?! You do realize the encrypted message that pointed you to “ST CHARLES …” or whatever the heck you arrived at is derived from a piece of art that was crafted by Sanborn when Simultronics was just beginning? I think you are reading far too much into things? Beyond that… the Kryptos thing has been around long before Elonka ‘issued’ the challenge on Science Now. Not trying to smash your dreams, just saying you might wanna take two steps back to the most logical place to begin. On topic I just read up to see the Unicode character post. I am fairly sure the symbols are made up to be just that. A representation of something, not a place holder for their Unicode values etc… They don’t all map exactly or necessarily in anywhere NEAR standard fonts. I think I am going to take a step back to the fact that the key to solving the third part may be in the first two that were decoded.

*great*

I just made a liar out of myself.

*headdesk*

here’s some comedy for your morning:

Lister: OK, professor, what does it mean?
Rimmer: Maybe, maybe, OK? Breaking your leg hurts like hell, OK? “Hel.” They do it below the knee, “lo.” “Hel-lo,” gettit? They do it twice – twice, “two.” “Hello two.” And the jigsaw must mean “you.” “Hello to you.”
[pause]
The Cat: I wouldn’t like to be around when one of these suckers is making a speech!
[Cat limps away]
(pasted from http://www.imdb.com quote for Red Dwarf TV Series)

LOL anyway, i got two more,

1)basse=low, bottom line starts and ends with “6″ therefore = “66″

2)HTML color codes each 24 bits=24 bit color, we got 4, Orangish color,Yellowish color,Purple-blue-ish color, and finally a Pinkish color, what to do we get? how bout “Yo! 66!” (flipped and upside down: OY/PP)

*) 74506518313470710988407084006 = 2*37253259156735355494203542003, has anyone been able to factor that 24 digit hex number? i think it works out to 2*laregprime*anotherlargeprime (last two primes combined are too large to factor in java) then again does that really get us anywhere? here is two lines seperated and factored: upper 12 digits) F0BE58F2FD63 264700326772067 = (242659*1090832513) (lower 12 digits) 6C79D2E493E6 119270485038054 = 2*3*7*2297*1236296671 (of course converted to deciaml first, because factoring hex is alot harder)

*)for those wanting to do an image lookup XBM/x-bitmap files can make 96 pixel B/W image of 16×6, course just looks scramble, best i could get was something looking like asian char after rearranging hex bits.

One of the patterns I was mentioning yesterday I have time to post fairly quickly is this: when you take the hex and swap F and C and turn it to Unicode chars, you get alternating Mongolian and Korean characters (I think that’s what they are, I forget)

C0BE58C2CD636F79D2E493E6 as Unicode
삾 売 쵣 汹 틤 鏦

to turn Hex to Unicode (simply) take the 4 digit hex code i.e. C0BE and put it in wordpad and press Alt+X.

More later when I have time…

I have no doubt the s could be a symbol mapping to 1 or A. I have just been trying to see if it worked literally. Also, if s does map to 1 or A and they don’t appear, I would be inclined to think that is something one could use to their advantage. 1/A are obviously some of the less used characters in the alphabet/cipher/whatever. Thus we might deduce that SFC could be a three letter word beginning with a very odd character and having 1 moderately common character and 1 even less common character.

The three letter side note could be either a key or initials etc… If it isn’t it has to be a stand alone phrase to make sense (i.e. it must translate to an odd lettered three char. stand alone phrase like I mentioned above such as: why or key …) One final thought: if Frank’s Employee number was 102 and S maps to 1 (or A). Coincidince? Maybe…..

randall,

yes, that was funny

ravin

randall,

that is some good work…and i have found in life that sometimes things can take on their own meaning that is somewhat reflective of the original meaning

i am not ready to rule out ur discovery…could u simplify the languages for me

i could of went into programming but having children and being a woman…i knew i couldn’t allocate that much time to something

and also we need to address the question of these diagrams…if the author(s) only meant for the letters/numbers to be decoded…then why spend much time on this diagrams? could there be two messages?

on to the diagrams

the ‘F’ could mean force as in strong, weak, electromagnetic, gravity…there is 4 forces

the arrow above the first ‘F’ being different then the other two in that line…does it mean that the force needs to change?

if the ‘B’ represents a)proton bean- curves to the right b) background – unrelated to particle muon pairs

c)in the lhc machine parameters…”dipole magnetic field B 8.4 T .. at http://www.atlas.ch/pdf/atlas_factsheet_5.pdf

and thankz to James for the pic of Atlas at

http://doc.cern.ch//archive/electronic/cern/others/PHO/photo-bul//bul-pho-2008-061.jpg

the points on the figure above the 5 could be CMS and LHCB (i don’t know for sure which two points but they should correspond in the distance between the two points)

it could read

The “electromagnetic force” of the “ion particle” set at “the default phi angle from positive x-axis” of the “dipole magnetic field” in the “event energy” of the “atlas” at “points ‘CMS’ and ‘LCHb’” using “boron” the “T8 transfer line” “whatever force” being “greater than 2 {? megavolts or something else}” caused the “whatever force’s” “distance in the nested loop sequence”

i’m still up in the air on the 6 so i will stop there

one other thing…can’t remember where i found it…i just refound it in my notes… the ‘B’ could mean…this is my notes (will figure out where i found it)

backtrack mode for endcap studies the ‘B’ with a ‘~’ over states the user must specify a target position, an angle (0 with a line through it) and a Vz that corresponds to the front face of the end cap – will find the other two VxVy- will not compute Vz will abort

that’s it for now…have a good night, ravin )

p.s. if that makes some sense to someone…feel free to correct my mistakes!!!

Ravin,

Robert Frost wrote, “We dance round in a ring and suppose, But the secret sits in the middle and knows.”

Granted Frost’s conflicted observation, the scientific method is the most objective path to discovery.

Decryption uses the scientific method, because its fundamental basis is to discover underlying rules.

In my comments to this forum, I have presented hypothesis, recorded experimental evidence, discovery, and conclusion.

When questioned, I have answered those questions in good faith.

However, the published evidence on the Internet has been largely ignored.

Instead, the tactic has been to either directly or indirectly impugn the presenter.

I have no doubt that flaws exist; but to get to where I am now, none of those flaws have been fatal.

I have every confidence that time will reveal this to be true.

Rich.

PS: I would recognize that smile anywhere

Could Basse be a deliberate misspelling of boss? Should we be looking at the employee number of someone’s boss?

randall,

please accept my apologizes…i didn’t want to redo ur formula…just asian characters shouldn’t be ruled out nor ur sentence

my question was what did “Hangul syllable” & “CJK Unified Ideograph” mean? i will do a search on it…don’t rule ur findings out yet…because well, like the 5 and a couple of the other bottom characters of the pairs don’t make sense…so maybe the author(s) have two messages encrypted in it

and please…i was in alot of pain yesterday well putting that post together…this is the most time i have spent on my computer typing for awhile…i know i need to install my dictation software…but it has it’s problems too…and i was suppose to be working on a dossier i have been working on for a couple of years and wanted to wrap it up this summer

*****

mr. mcbroom,

please accept my apologizes for not understanding everything…i went back over ur posts today to refresh my thought patterns…and maybe i did miss a few things

the best thing would be to start at the beginning…i’ve been over the ‘kryptos’ search… and on the ‘KjJK and Fermilab”…in addition i did a search on “Cosmic Uroboros”

which came up to

http://physics.ucsc.edu/~joel/Chapter6.pdf
http://physics.ucsc.edu/cosmo/primack_abrams/COSMO.HTM

and today i went farther down the search to find this

http://www.superstringtheory.com/forum/cosmoboard/messages14/69.html

to keep this post somewhat short…i’m thinking maybe the “3″ with its diagram represents all three things anyone in physics should know before starting classes…that would be algebra, geometry, and calculus

and i read somewhere about string theory and a person named Nima Arkani-Hamed…in what i read the person said string theory should be dismissed because it would require redoing the Standard Model of Physics

from what i understand (correct me if i am wrong) that the LHC and Atlas is going to look for this Higgs boson and if the Higgs boson isn’t there then there will be a need to redo the Standard Model of Physics?

if u could help me in any misunderstandings…i would surely appreciate the gesture

u said u would recognize my smile anywhere…that is very nice…i don’t receive to many compliments…thank you )

i have a quote for u also

“Science, like life, feeds on its own decay. New facts burst old rules; then newly divined conceptions bind old and new together into a reconciling law.” William James: The Will to Believe

ravin )

this puts forward a question whether something in the middle, a couple of levels below could be strayed. for if something could be confused and gripped tightly the fact whether it would be boon or bane in the hands of its owner could be readily answered. these are lessons supposed to have been learned with radiation and the Curies, but more importantly with Roentgen. these are absolutely demonstrable.

Apologies accepted, and thanks to all for your interest.

I am still looking for findings (layer number) showing where the trail of logic (see the PBS Discussions Forum) leading from the Kryptos cipher to the Fermilab cipher is fatally flawed?

Regarding the lack of an acknowledged solution, at what point is a work of art complete?

I have much to say on other subjects, but solving the Fermilab cipher is the subject of this forum.

I submit that understanding the Fermilab cipher, requires understanding the Kryptos cipher and the trail leading from it.

Rich.

This is clearly a none lin sequence military tone under graded for spec analyisis. Usually to do with classified material. Why was it not handed to the NSA for inspection?

Rich,

jules verne would have said “audacious voyager”…nevertheless, it equates the same

u had mentioned before about me stating this cryptic message being a “game”…for the most part cryptology is

i am still workin on the kryptos/fermilab connection…will post soon

have a good night, ravin )

Dr James,

Why was not the NSA allowed to inspect?

Rich.

PS: Be free but wide eyed every CIA Day!

Hello to all

Maybe I’m too naive, but is it possible that the double ’s’ in BASSE means that we should correct the double character mistake ALSO in the word “SIXTEEN”?

I mean:

EMPLOYEE NUMBER BASSE SIXTEEN

maybe shoult be corrected as follows:

EMPLOYEE NUMBER BASE SIXTEN

And also it may bring us the real worker number, maybe number 610?

(I already said it is too naive

Another possibility is that the three symbols mean S F C, and also maybe S=FC (hex), so its possible:
* BASSE SIXTEEN –> BAFCFC16 (hex?)

Or maybe it only relates to the second S:
* BASSE SIXTEEN –> BASFCE 16 (maybe BASF CE 16, any kind of product from BASF or employee from BASF?

Best regards from Murcia, in Spain. David C.M.

Dear Mr.Stone.

I suspect several things about this letter:

* It’s mainly a joke. I’m pretty sure that the original creator (or creators, don’t discard the possibility of a message made by three people, one for each section) of the message is having a great time laughing at us while he/her/they is reading these blogs.

* The message is designed to be breakable exclusively with the information contained in itself, so probably is not necessary to look for external sources of information like history, music, the actual number of Mr.Shoemaker, etc.

* The message is designed to be breakable with an intermediate level of difficulty in the code-cracking, so the code-crackers begin to feel confident in their traditional methods (like the decoding of sections 1 and 3), but probably the solution of the section 2 is of a totally different kind, so psichologically the code-breakers would go into an impossible maze, thinking that their previous methods will work also in this one.

I want to clarify that I would be unable to crack the sections 1 and 3 in my entire life and that I admire the people that was able to do it. What I say about “intermediate level” is that the author of the letter have not used any ultra-advanced encryption system, like computer encryption systems.

Best regards. David C.M.

9J1B42W1011: DCAGJXTRSDIP

thermal adaptability at the Marianas Trench.

Ravin,

T. S. Eliot wrote, “We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time.”

That granted, I have a great deal of trust in the factual integrity of PBS and Nova Science Now.

I also have a great deal of trust in the process leading from the Kryptos cipher to the Fermilab cipher.

In fact, I am still looking for proof (layer number?) where the logical chain from Kryptos to Fermilab is fatally flawed.

That process is fully revealed on the following pages (see the various “Kryptos” discussion threads):

http://discussions.pbs.org/viewforum.pbs?f=184&sid=272ff6a841b278d600b96f4239a2b927

Which site should I be viewing, please, for the purported misquote by Nova Science Now administrators?

Thank you for your efforts, Ravin; and I understand.

Thanks to all the participants on this forum!

Rich.

PS: Dr. Frank James, why was not the NSA informed; and now, why was not my question answered the first time?

Let me be more explicit in my indication that the Nova Science Now encryption and Kryptos are in NO WAY connected to Fermilab:

I am willing to entertain the idea your posed in your thread on PBS. MAYBE the spatial dimensions of Kryptos have something to do with it. All of the sudden the thread jumps to: “The first three layers in degree of certainty are quotations from John 3:16, John 1:5 and Matthew 6:9-13.” Can you cite where you acquire this great assumption from?

Then it gets even better: “Does anyone else have all 3 keys?
No further communication without 3 keys. ”

What does that mean? I am pretty sure there are about ohhh… (*switches to google*) 225,000 websites containing info about how to solve K1 K2 and K3.

As one of my friends once said: “Don’t feed the trolls.” And what a resounding truth that is.

As far as the Fermilab middle section goes I have written a Java program that is still some what in the early development stages (but very functional) to do mass binary/tertiary conversions to different mappings of alphabets. I have also found the following phrase (and several others, not as concrete) using my tool: EVA STEAD WEB AT TBS. I don’t know if this means anything or not, we shall have to wait an see when I can investigate it further. Will post more as soon as I have time.

Stone,

I would like to honor gifts and ways of others.

I especially encourage you with this message, “Don’t give up.”

The T-rex became extinct because the climate became changed, and the species could not adapt to the cold like experienced in Minnesota.

I don’t want to be one of those!

So why is it that you have discounted my technique of layering??

Rich.

PS: I guess you can tell I have viewed one of the latest “X-file” movies?

I direct this to all forum participants who have queried my posts:

RE: “THIS IS CLEARLY A NONE LIN SEQUENCE MILITARY TONE UNDER GRADED FOR SPEC ANALYISIS. USUALLY TO DO WITH CLASSIFIED MATERIAL. WHY WAS IT NOT HANDED TO THE NSA FOR INSPECTION?”

And let’s keep this simple.

Why is it that no concern has been expressed in the above string from Dr. Frank James (other than my own), or in his possible hidden message— especially considering its origin and alarming content???

For one logical explanation, please follow the first discussion thread labeled “Kryptos” to recent posts at this address:

http://discussions.pbs.org/viewforum.pbs?f=184&sid=272ff6a841b278d600b96f4239a2b927

Can we reach a consensus on this matter?

Rich.

Stone,

Shadowing the Fermilab remnant with Proverbs 25:2 (NCV) gives the following result:

“SEEKER QUITTING WINS A TROLL DISH MATTER
BUT MAY TAKE JOY OF TOTAL SEARCH”

This leaves “?VQQQ_OOOCHOO” as remnant.

The Internet search for “VQQQ,” plus “8,” plus “Fermilab” gives “[8],and. 2705.9 f 3.3 i 2.0MeV by the E687 experiment at. Fermilab [ 91. … This gives the following inequality on Hamiltonians:. H=T+VQQQ. L fHz(aij,V$), …
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/037026939500704O”

Does this have any meaning to you?

Rich.

I am sure you are going to throw this aside as “too Obvious” but you really should think about it and try to configure it into the decode sequence:

http://www.scouting.org.za/codes/pigpen.php

Wait….What if the middle consists of Four lines instead of just Two?

The symbols could be the first line and then the numbers and letters are the second, etc.

gentlemen,

while the kryptos/fermilab link is shadowy…i think there still might be something in what rich has to say about it

rich, if u could tell me how u went from the “English (longer) versions of the Fermilab cipher” to the “Pentagon English cipher” would be helpful

james, i believe that the cipher was received on march 5, 2007 and then in may of 2008 sent over to a website and then printed in the chicago tribune on july 11, 2008

which reminds me of of one other thing we are left with other than

“someone who wrapped the text in the first and last stanza…purposely misspelled ‘basse’ and left us with sometype of homemade like symbols with letters/numbers…and likes to give out busy work”

is that the author sent it to Kirk rd & Pine…the author could of just wrote Fermilab Batavia, IL 60510 or no zipcode at all

these things though rather small in scope…tells us alot about the author…also, the fact the the author is very much interested in ciphers/codes

as for the NSA looking at this cipher…while in the tribune article it was mentioned that some thought the NSA had sent it to see how people would go about deciphering the contents

i would hope the NSA has better things to do…and i do think that the CIA is still the ones that have a crypt department…so, if the NSA did look at it they would send it to the CIA

i think the author of the cipher knows this and maybe the CIA has tried to decipher other text this unknown author has sent in the past…i don’t know…it is just a thought

rich, any thoughts?

have a good night, ravin )

Forwarded with correction to Kryptos2/ Pentagon English decryption (Subsequent Proverbs 25:2 application was missed):

Ravin,

The following is an account of Summit Strings (lines separate each application of text and annhilation through 1:1 mapping of identical characters).

Kryptos1 Cipher (“LUDIA” version)
“?OBKR
UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUDIAWINFBNYP
VTTMZFPKWGDKZXTJCDIGKUHUAUEKCAR

Egyptian Fermilab Ciphers
“FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE”
“EMPLOYEE NUMBER BASSE SIXTEEN”

(Kryptos1/Egyptian Hidden Message Text
“BETWEEN LUX ON DEEP GUFT
KEEP KJJK FUN LIVE”)

Kryptos1/Egyptian/Remnant Cipher (The Runic Cipher)
“?RBVQQGKQQK_WFBT_TGJCGK”
__________________________________________________

Kryptos1/Egyptian/Fermilab Remnant Cipher
“?RBVQQGKQQK_WFBT_TGJCGK “

Proverbs 25:2 (NCV)
“IT IS THE GLORY OF GOD TO CONCEAL A MATTER
BUT THE GLORY OF KINGS IS TO SEARCH OUT A MATTER.”

(Kryptos/Fermilab/Proverbs Hidden Message Text
“SEEKER QUITTING WINS A TROLL DISH MATTER
BUT MAY TAKE JOY OF TOTAL SEARCH”)

Kryptos1/ Egyptian/ Fermilab/Proverbs Remnant Cipher
“?VQQQ_OOOCHOO”
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________

Kryptos2 Cipher (“LUNIA”)
“?OBKR
UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUNIAWINFBNYP
VTTMZFPKWGDKXTJCDIGKUHAUEKCAR”

Pentagon English Cipher
“THIS IS CLEARLY A NONE LIN SEQUENCE MILITARY TONE UNDER GRADED FOR SPEC ANALYISIS. USUALLY TO DO WITH CLASSIFIED MATERIAL. WHY WAS IT NOT HANDED TO THE NSA FOR INSPECTION?”

(Kryptos2/Pentagon English Hidden Message Text
“NOT QUIZZING THE INQUISITOR
AS TO NSA INSPECTN
CLAIMS NOT VALUABLE DEED
BE FREE BUT WD EYED EVERY CIA DAY”)

Kryptos2/ Pentagon English remnant
“KXBQKJKWJKBZKGKXJGKUKLHSH”
__________________________________________________

Kryptos2/ Pentagon English remnant
“KXBQKJKWJKBZKGKXJGKUKLHSH”

Proverbs 25:2 (NCV)
“IT IS THE GLORY OF GOD TO CONCEAL A MATTER
BUT THE GLORY OF KINGS IS TO SEARCH OUT A MATTER

(Kryptos2/Pentagon English/ Proverbs Hidden Message Text
A Secret)

Kryptos2/’Pentagon English/ Proverbs Remnant Cipher
“BQJKJZKKXJKKHRH”

________________________________ ________________________________

Kryptos1/Fermilab/Proverbs Remnant Cipher
“?VQQQ_8”

Kryptos2/’Pentagon English/ Proverbs Remnant Cipher
“BQJKJZKKXJKKHRH”

Shoemaker Text
“MATCHING QUADRUPOLE APERTURE INCREASE??”

(Final/Triple String Hidden Message Text
“RUPTURE GAME PICTURE
8 QSL ID’S
VALUE BONANZA”)

Final/Triple String Remnant
“KXQKJKWJKBKGKXJGKKHHQQCHQRE?”
________________________________________ _________

The following is a proposed solution to the QSL Challenge (8 QSL ID’s are required):

kJjK
KjJQ
KkJQ
KHWG
KGRE
KHKX
K(J)kBQ (“kkBQ”)
KXj(Q)K (“KXjK”)

A lower case character means that the character is a virtual oscillation with an adjacent character (one character acts as two), so the lower case character does not count against the remnant cipher.

Upper case characters count (total 27 characters).

The final “J” and “Q” (parentheses) are not read in the Quaternionic ID, because the “J” and “Q” oscillate in Octonionic Vector Space, where quantum entanglement requires a “Q” identity in remnant space.

Only “?” remains (the mystery continues).

I hope I have at least entertained?

I part you with a poem:

Kryptos

From its creation, its very shape has been a mystery—
Not withstanding its cryptic message.

For twenty years, now!

The artistic eye sees its bold shape, an “S,”

A flag, fluttering in the breeze—

Motion suspended, yet a part of the total space.

The eye is drawn to the “S’s” at the trailing edge.

An appreciation of its rhythm and meter,

Found within the S’s:

“?OBKR
UOXOGHULBSOLIFBBWFLRVQQPRNGKSSO
TWTQSJQSSEKZZWATJKLUNIAWINFBNYP
VTTMZFPKWGDKXTJCDIGKUHAUEKCAR”

Can you see them?

Here and there, a hint, the nuance of a word.

Then the realization, “I’ve seen this before!”

The “S’s” have always been the key;
Even at its living depths.

Appropriately so!

The flag is a symbol of our country,
And the “S” denotes the carrier wave of light.

Light and Symbol, frozen in time.

Everything is connected!

The Kryptos labyrinth instills,
And from its maze these messages:

“Be free.”
“Honor the gifts and ways of others”
“Don’t give up.”
“Well done audacious seeker.”

This and even more,
“Many wonderful things!”

In your quest “audacious seeker,”
Do not forget,
Everything is connected!

Rich.

rich,

that is quite alot of work…and surely entails many things

yet, i was really looking for a more simple answer as to the pentagon question…and are u then discounting randall’s double byte unicode translation?

i would be willing to state that in the middle section there is some theory of superposition…in that the author could have designed it to have two meanings occupying the same space

though i tend to think the author intended a more 3 dimensional aspect to this cipher/code…the two meanings that are for the codebreaker to see and a third that the author is using as a taunt to the codebreaker…whereas, the codebreaker for the most part wouldn’t consider this aspect because the cipher was sent to Fermilab a physics related community

let’s do an everyday example of something in 3D

take campaign buttons…technically, they are pins not buttons…buttons are fixed to a garment in a functional use of the garment…pins, such as lapel pins, pins for kids, or campaign buttons are not a fixed part of the garment but are decorative and thus are not really buttons

so, in our language we have campaign buttons that are really pins…whereas, occupying the same ‘space’ in our language and yet are considered buttons making it 3 dimensional in the perspective of a foreigner just learning the language who would be confused by 3 meanings of the ‘campaign buttons’

the symbol above the #4 kinda looks like ‘buttons’…the one symbol of the middle section that fascinates me the most is the symbol with the c…i have spent alot of time trying to match it with something

do u have any ideas on these symbols in the middle section?

have a good night, ravin )

p.s. i don’t have any poems to quote…i’ll have to work on that

Any other interpretation would be breaking symmetry?
(We’ll give him an offer he couldn’t refuse.)

135113p

richard mcbroom,

beg ur forgiveness, but i have never said my interpretation was of a runic type…that has surely been ur understanding

so, i thought about ur ‘final draft’ and came up with this

“the audacious seeker destined to fulfill a total search ultimately is successful”

i haven’t changed my mind on my interpretation that i stated awhile back…i said that it is the code the author wants the codebreaker to see not the ultimate code and/or reason for the cipher

i was thinking maybe the ‘main hidden message’ of the author is that ‘he is the ace of spades’ or ‘holding the highest trump card’

let me explain…the two lines have 12 dual character sets…12 x 2 = 24 x 2 = 48 plus the 3 digit signature = 51

the author has dealt a deck of cards and considers himself holding or is the ACE of Spades

i will quote this for you…when asked how does one prove that someone is a liar even though half of what the person said is true and the other half false and what should the decider of the facts believe is true…my response

“A lie is based on a truth or it wouldn’t be a lie.” so, there has to be some truth some where…just have to find it

have a good night, ravin )

p.s. score: ravin 1 rich 0

rich,

u r amusing to say the least…yet, i think u said “(Runic/ Egyptian Hidden Text Message None) Runic/ Egyptian Linear Remnant None”

which begs the question of ur new “Pompeian cryptogram”…where is the remnant?

which begs another question…why r u so fascinated with remnants? and it appears for ‘s’ also?

one thing that isn’t a mystery…is ur love of cryptograms and making them

i am sticking to my card analysis…though i will say that the letter C and it’s symbol are in fact a key to some cipher

in that the author just had to taunt everyone by revealing this as he thought no one would notice

so, i have a question…a compass is 360 degrees and if one does a minus 12 from it the answer is 348…do u think that is a house number?

“One’s belief in truth begins with a doubt of all the truths one has believed hitherto.” Ibid

have a good night, ravin )

ravin 2 rich 1

rich,

hope it wasn’t anything i said…since u brought it up

the Heart of Enlightenment is the principle that “Love can never be idle”…this state of conscienceness impels an individual not merely to refrain from injuring others, but to expend himself to their advantage…

“Since to my neighbors as to myself, Are fear and sorrow hateful each, What then distinguishes self, That I should cherish it above another’s?

Wouldst thou to Evil put an end, And reach the Blessed Goal, Then let your Faith be rooted deep, And all your thought upon Enlightenment.” Shanti Deva

“Have courage to use your own reason!” Immanuel Kant Metaphysics of Morals London 1909

Self-Interest: “Everyone thinks chiefly of his own, hardly ever of the public interest.” Aristotle: Politics, 1.

“SEEKER QUITTING WINS A TROLL DISH MATTER” Mr. Mcbroom
August 15th 2008

i byfar do not believe that a zero sum game is without merit to finish…success or failure brings about enlightenment…and i was just getting warmed up

i plan on continuing to “see”

have a good night ravin, )

recount: minus 1 for rich quitting, plus 1 for rich for ‘knowing when to stop playing the game’, minus 1 for rich not realizing to stop playing soon enough

ravin 3 mr. mcbroom 0

“a definite source of the cipher is arguable at this point”

argument: a reason offered for or against something / a contest in reasoning

i have been called such things as well…they begin with a ‘b’ and well u get the picture

not all that this cipher is about has been discussed…and after alot of deciphering the 3 digit signature is ‘SFC’ it just doesn’t mean Shoemaker, Frank C…at this time i will wait to voice an opinion

as mr. mcbroom said “joy of total search”…well…it wasn’t that joyful actually it took alot of my time…but it was ultimately successful

i believe in going where the intelligence leads me not where it is more convenient to be lead…and that makes for alot of research

have a good night, ravin )

Well, that is very nice. I was wondering does “HH” mean “A”. I found that in other cipher noone else could figure out. They say it was a remmant. I say they weren’t looking at it right.

“I have been troubled by the fact that I was dealt a “crackpot fan’s” Tarot card, and am now unable to live with the ownership.”

Not sure what u mean…can u expand on that?

rich,

it seems as though everyone else has lost interest…are you sure SFC stands for Shoemaker Frank C

i disagree “HH” means A as in ah / ah boat or a boat

so, it is DAN

ravin

“Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?”

One thing I have not seen anybody do… is take that middle section, and group it into threes like everything else is.

If you take that, and turn it into trinary code like the rest, you get a really strange pattern. (replacing letters with zero and numbers with 1, or vice versa)

101 100 101 100 010 010 100 010 011 or
010 011 010 011 101 101 011 101 100

Notice a lot of the groupings are repeated… converting these to letters using the already determined code gives me gibberish though:

JIJICCICD or
CDCDJJDJI or

ABABHHBHG shifted so C=A
HGHGAAGAB

These could even be further broken into threes but i’m not seeing a pattern with that.

Maybe nothing, seems far too coincidental to be ignored though…

If anyone is still interested in the encoding system used for the first and third sections, I built a tool to illustrate the process. You can encode your own messages, or see the built-in Fermi messages as a demo.

I should have section 2 done soon… :/

Hmmm. Maybe my translation of the middle lines is also a key–the top line is code and the bottom line is the key. Starting with letters in the bottom portion that are first in the alphabet and proceeding we get HMBOCKNOEOF. (Nothing for A, so it gets a blank, B=H, C=M, D=B, nothing for E and so on…)

HM BOCK NOEOF

The employee could be Greg Bock, NuMI project manager. He is involved in neutrino detection, just as Frank Shoemaker was. Neutrino detection is usually done underground or in caves where they can isolate the detector from background radiation and cosmic rays, which often come from the sun. He could have certainly come up with this joke.

Ryan,

The logic breaks down on the second line establishing order of lettering, because there are two “F’s” and two “I’s,” among other things; and it is also important that the decryption have true meaning.

Broadcast transmissions revealed in my decryption are obviously sources of “static.”

I don’t know how arbitrary your selections of alphabetic replacements were, but “O_KNEHOBOMFCFLGIMBNDICNF” can be written as “O(STRIKE)KNEHOBOMFCFLGIMBNDICNF.”

This translates (by reordering) to “FIND OBKR FIGMENT OF CHOSEN K CLIMB.”

The significance is that “OBKR” constitutes the first four alphabetic characters in the K4 cipher.

“K” is used for mountains in the Himalayas and for “Kryptos.”

Profoundly, “OBKR” is in all probability a contrived website providing a map for K4 decryption—query (“?”) “OBKR” yourself!

If this is coincidence, it is exceptional in its clarity.

Richard.

glad to see some people haven’t given up…i’ve been busy

i think rich still could help on some clues in this cipher

in that when rich insisted that we go to the pbs forum i only really noticed one thing…one person called obiwan 121 and See_1111…who seemed like the same person to me

then, after much research i realized that the See_1111 was referring to the last four digits of a phone number

and that phone number which is currently in use matches what could represent SFC

what do u think rich?

Yeah, nice work on that online tool, jdwood. Very cool.

Oh, by the way I found this fermilab directory link that you can use to look up employees. If you click on the ‘+’ sign to the right of ‘search’ you can search by first AND last names.

http://www-tele.fnal.gov/cgi-bin/telephone.script

I’m not really surprised, but no one with the last name Bockno works there. It’s too bad, I really liked the answer “Sol” to the statement “Frank Shoemaker Would Call This Noise.” Well back to the drawing board…

Thanks – If anyone would like to see specific coders, dictionary scanners or any kind of processing tool that you think might help with some of this stuff – let me know. I’m always looking for interesting project ideas.

ahhhhhhhhhh…

just to let u know…mr. william fisher should go back to grade school…

can anyone tell me where mr. mcbroom went???

ravin )

Any thoughts on the substitution idea?

As for the rest of it, well, I hope it was taken in the spirit of fun it was intended…

~William Fisher

there’s another message string at the OBKR website.

when it is shadowed against the others, the following message emerges:

“BRICKS OF FOUR HILL”

which translates by rearrangement to:

“RICH IS FULL OF OBKR”

rich,

it would be nice if u addressed anything that comes close to my questions

first off…u wanted me to go to that pbs discussion and the only thing i seen that came close to being connected to this forum is the posts from the names obiwan 121 and See_1111 that seem really close to ur posts

i am not asking IF u have a comment…i want a comment or i will take the lack of comment so far from u as a ‘yes’

second…do u know what phone number i am talking about that ends in 1111 and is related to SFC? YES OR NO…

ravin )

Greetings all,

Does anyone think that the substitution information I posted slightly above has any hope of something productive? If so, then I’ll keep playing with it. If I am barking up the wrong tree and it’s obvious to you, I’ll be happy to try looking for something else.

Yes, ignore my ‘challenge’ – it was an attempt at humor. Perhaps a bit of a failure based on responses.

Thanks,

~WF

Obviously I still can’t add….some things never change

Matt79,

Seems your comment was in the queue as was my request for comment… Thanks for your ability to see a bit into the future. (Have lotto numbers for me, also?)

So my comment WAY up above about it being high byte/low Byte may be something actually worth being pursued? WOOT! AND maybe actually correct? Double woot! I just wish I could have done something more with them at the time.

*nodding* I agree about it not REALLY being a typo. I know if it was me I’d fix the problem instead of effectively adding edit notation much further down on the page. I don’t like the “Cut the red wire” and then having a “but NOT before cutting the green wire.” added into instructions unless I am trying to kill the double-naught secret agent. Doesn’t make sense if I need to stop my own evil overlord spybase from going into a critical meltdown and following the instructions to do it.

I’ll go back and reveiw the HB/LB notes I made.

Thanks!
~WF

Greetings, yet again…

The more and more I look at it, I think there’s FOUR separate puzzles, not three with an instruction for Section(2). Mostly, I feel, because of the spacing between the areas.

The coder was very aware of spacing and used it to indicate that there were issues within the data that must be observed and accounted for. The indentions in the first puzzle section to show that data joined over into the next line, for example.

—-
Section(1)
FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE

**large blank area*

Section(2)
*array of symbols*
F…0…B…E…5.8.F.2..F.D..3…3
*array of symbols*
6…C…7…9…D.2.E.4..9.3..E…6

**blank area**

Section (3)
S(f)(c) [Using Section(2) as key map for symbols]

**blank area – this area nearly matches the area between section(2) and section(3)**

Section (4)
EMPLOYEE NUMBER BASSE SIXTEEN
—–

The spacing in section (2) between the ‘hex’ values could be intentional. To convey data, or for just astetic reasons – the coder did seem to try to center most of the sections on the page.

The upper section of Section (2) of the puzzle contains no “C” hex code, nor does the lower section contain an “F” hex code.

The [S(f)(c)] section could just be using the above data as a key – and have nothing to do with data above it. Odd to have all those glyphs in section(2)and only use two of them anywhere else.

If BASSE=LOW then message could be “EMPLOYEE NUMBER: L O W SIXTEEN”

L = 12(th)
O = 15(th)
W = 23(rd)
+
16

12+15+23+16 = 66, 66 (hex) = 102 decimal. Per main data & edits, Mr. Shoemaker’s ID was 102. ARGHGHG. Coincidence!?

Anyway,

More patterns to look at, and for… Whee.

~WF

Ravin, and all.

I don’t know Frank Shoemaker, and I don’t know what he would consider “noise”. There’s enough space between the “Frank Shoemaker would call this noise” message and the “F0BE” section to give us a message unto itself.

Current is expressed as “I”. That whole Ohm’s Law thing, ya know, I(current) = V(voltage)/R(resistance)? I’d think some smart guy in physics and coding cypher would know that sort of thing – whoever the coder was.

How are you, Ravin, making your various associations? “C” is leaning towards “Current”? What do you mean by that? and how are you getting there?

— Warning! Vague attempt at humor!!

Rod Serling(voice over): Somewhere, in space and time.. perhaps, even in an entirely different Universe…

William: “I’ll take odd, annoying, and prob’ly not worth the time spent on it crypto for $400, Alex!”

** BZZ-DING **

Alex: This is a visual daily double. *showing the coded paper to the players, high-lighting the top section and the ‘big empty’*

*William scribbles something on his touch screen*

Alex: The answer is … “The Background!”

William: “What would Frank Shoemaker call noise?”

Alex: This is the super special version of our game show, and now you must explain the question and how you arrived at it based off of the answer.

William: “The Background” (Since there a large ‘nothing, but paper’ between the two sections, big enough for giving another puzzle in. Paper is just the background for the code. Indicating that the code author felt that Mr. Shoemaker thought everything in the background was Noise.

Alex: Correct! Let’s see how much you wagered…

*William’s monitor reveals …*

(Camera pans across space and time, and prob’ly some other Universe.)

Rod Serling: Well, at least deep within the twilight zone, William was correct. In YOUR universe he may or may not be. You won’t know for certain until you talk with the author of the crypto, or you visit, William and Schrodinger’s cat in.. The Twilight Zone.

——— End humor attempt.

There are lots of ways to view things..

(sigma)(delta)(lambda?)

S = Entropy = (energy / temperature) or Sigma
(triangle) = F? or Delta = finite change
(lambda-ish thingy) = C? or wavelength

It does look like the “S” is to the power of (triangle)(lambda-ish thingy) since they are at/about above the midplane of “S”. F and C are associated with (triangle) and (lambda-ish thingy) perhaps that number in hex (decimal =252) is also supposed to be associated with it.

I guess what I’m trying to get at is, how are you working it all out that it’s not something as simple as the obvious, but instead some double? triple? more? level of crypto?

It’s a SMALL amount of data. Unless it’s linked to something much bigger, there’s only so much information you can store in 96 bits and 14 little pictures – several of which look like Greek letters, by the way.

5 = Omicron
7 = Phi
8 = Tau
C = Lambda (lower case) **lambda-ish**
F = Delta

How about telling us what it decodes to that you think is completely the wrong path? I’m sure it’s better then my “Dr – Thanks Keep Mexicp”

Looking for education and enlightment – please share!

Thanks!

~WF

Dear All,

A further Internet search of “OBKR” yielded additional information.

A thesis (April 1981) entitled “Electron Capture from Inner Shells by Fully Stripped Ions” by G. Lapicki is described at the following location:
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4331342&isnumber=4331324

In the abstract the Oppenheimer-Brinkman-Kramers (OBK) theory for electron capture for fully-stripped ions is extended to account for relativistic (R) effects.

The “SFC” code is possibly for Schrodinger, Faraday, and Coulomb.

With the allusion to Einstein, it is possible that all are included in the Runic cipher by some logic.

Richard.

Ravin,

I was thinking of the Runic symbols resembling electronic devices, perhaps alluding to an inventor?

Please consider two specific names somewhat more “down to earth:”

If the “SATOR AREPO TENET OPERA ROTAS” cryptogram is combined with the two strings of alphabetic and numeric characters (line 2 and 4 in the middle portion of the Fermilab cipher) the following message is found:

“michaEl FARADAy
BEFORE
ChARlES PROTEuS sTEiNmETz
TOP OF D”

The upper case characters exhaust the alphabetic characters in the Fermilab cipher (excluding “SFC,” which is separate from the main body, and has already been interpreted).

The message is significant, because Faraday and Steinmetz represent a kind of “alpha” and “omega” in electronics, indicative of the Pompeian cipher (“A’s” and “O’s”).

Further, the Runic symbol immediately above the “D” in the Fermilab cipher is indicative of two joined wheels.

There is a greater than 90% chance that application of the “ROTAS” wheel to the English alphabet (made also into a wheel) will produce the lower case “michalyhlusimz” letters (above), when the “S” in the “ROTAS” wheel is aligned with the “C” or “D” in the alphabetic wheel and the numeric characters are used to count left and right complete rotations of the “ROTAS” wheel against the alphabetic wheel, using “S” as a pointer (there is recession and progression against the alphabetic wheel because there are fewer characters in the “ROTAS” wheel) the numeric characters are effectively transformed into the remaining 14 lower case alphabetic characters).

Richard.

Yet another thought:

F3C1 hex (again, f occurs 3 times, c once) = 16 bits. Taking the lower 8 bits of that (basse/low 16) = C1 hex or 193 dec. Employee 193 is “CLIFFORD MAN….” in the Fermi directory.

One could also interpret that as 3FC1, I suppose, with 1C hex being 28 dec. #28 is “K. RAJE…” The directory lists his/her status as a visitor, though, and 3F1C just seems less intuitive than F3C1, imo.

but my dear mr. mcbroom

u were so adamant that ‘sfc’ meant shoemaker or this pierre guy wrote this ridiculous cipher

now u want me to believe some other stuff…i’ll tell u what it is: AC/DC and the song is “Back in Black”

DON’T WASTE MY TIME!!!

i will play the game until i get tired of playing the game…then, i turn the game board over!!!

now, if there is anything you want to get off ur chest…i am willing to listen

ravin )

Ravin,

And yes, I did recognize that Elizabethan smile!

Richard.

mr. mcbroom,

r u a physicist?

ravin )

whoever posted the last post “by ravin sept 19 12:53″

i am not in the least bit amused…could mr. mcbroom have posted it…well…lets check ip adresses…since someone had broke into my computer as of late…we might get some answers

the more u write stuff like “nevermore” the more survillence u will be under

ravin )

To My Detractors,

The accusation that I would submit nefarious statements, let alone under false identity, is a blatant lie.

It is time for participants to maintain a modicum of common respect when addressing such matters.

Either come forward with the evidence, or accept as fiat the current account.

Assuredly,
Richard;.

then…let’s let it go

Dear All,

In this “Alice in Wonderland” world of Kryptos and Fermilab ciphers, I hereby declare that these, and all correlative ciphers, have now been effectively resolved.

If the game is to continue, it will be without me, because I now choose to return to the real world, which has become of a similar-but-at-least-real state.

Forgiving all, I attribute my accomplishments to God.

You have my eternal love and respect.

Richard

Mr. Mcbroom,

I’ve really been trying to go through your information to understand it. How you get from one step to the other. Certain leaps just don’t make sense to me.

I really do hope you’ve made correct solution, but at this point, I think you’ve just found something that works, not THE solution.

*sigh*

Since Mr. McBroom has stated he’s signing off. Does anyone know WHY he thinks James E. Sanborn is the author of this? Or was it just a guess, stab in the dark? Has anyone bothered to make contact with this person for confirmation?

That’d solve things real quick if the person confirmed authorship, some how. I’d have to buy Mr. McBroom a beer or something, and send something nice to the author for an interesting puzzle.

~WF

Apparently they give people in the loonie bin internet time too. If I were you I would rethink the problem as a whole instead of listening to anything he says. There is adequate reasoning posted further back. In short: if you can’t reproduce your results with the same set of rules and a different message, you don’t have an algorithm. If there is no algorithm to this (i.e. it is a one time pad or something), I highly doubt Mr. McBroom could make all the assumptions he has made correctly. On top of all this, fairly simple encryption methods were used for the top and bottom. They were also very logical/computer orientated. Why use something preposterously hard for the middle?

Ryan,

Sadly, I have to agree with you and A. Nony. Moose.

Thanks also about mentioning the “Dr.ThanksKeepMexicp” thing. It just seemed really ODD that all the number I’d pulled were less in value then the alphabet total. I really don’t think that’s the solution – BUT if the flow is correct, but the KEY is wrong, perhaps the key is in the previous data.

I wish I knew what those symbols ment. The main idea I have been playing with is that they are a mis-mash of standard ‘code’ subsitutions. I’ve found a few of them in code references on the net. The symbol above the (c) code was also used by “The Zodiac” killer – but they didn’t decode the name yet, so I can’t say that’s a subsitution value.

I’ve been trying to play the game of “What pattern is next?” as in the IQ tests for abstract pattern recog’, but sadly that was always my down fall. I’d find something else to link as patterns “they” didn’t consider. So my answers almost never match the expected.

Anyway, it’s interesting stuff, this crypto stuff. Certainly more intense then the “cypher of the day” my Science teacher used to put up in the 8th grade. Good rest his Soul, he was a cool science teacher.

~WF

Moving back to the topic at hand; has anyone made any further progress? Any bright ideas?

I haven’t really been actively working on it, though I’m still very much interested in seeing someone (ANYONE!) come up with a full, elegant solution.

I’ve shared multiple theories over the past few months, though none have seemed to hit the nail squarely on the head, so to speak. In the interest of inspiring some relevant discussion, though, I’ll outline the three theories that I think hold the most promise.

1) S-FC = 252 dec. ie: S is noise, and FC is straight up converted hex -> dec, with #252 being former employee P.P. Apparently P.P has been contacted and claims no knowledge of the letter. Two other possibilities are AFC (emp #2812), or 1FC (emp #508), but again, neither of these two former employees have come forward to claim responsibility.

A simple Hex->Dec conversion seems to be the most obvious path to the employee number, yet the derived numbers do not seem to be the intended solution.

2) Symbol S occurs zero times, hex F three times (iii), and hex C once (i). Using the procedure from the top and bottom sections, this gives us 001a. A search for “001a” in the directory of course gives us Mr. Wilson. This would be a great practical joke from beyond the grave, wouldn’t it?:)

The use of “Basse” and its connection to Beauvais Cathedral, which Fermi’s HQ is modeled after, adds further merit to this theory. The site of the *incomplete* nave at Beauvais is called the “Basse oeuvre,” and if one looks at ternary table from a decimal perspective, it has 196 digits missing, which totals 16 – ie: “employee number in *incomplete* 16.”

Admittedly, this theory is flawed. Symbol ‘S’ occurs zero times, which means it does not map to 0,1,2 in a way that’s 100% consistent with:

i=1
ii=2
iii=0

3) Basse 16 = low 16 bits. f3c1 hex of course totals 16 bits, with its lower half converting to 193. This is C.M in the directory. Once again, this seems flawed. It would make much more sense to use the lower 16 bits of a 32 bit number, wouldn’t it?

That being said, I do think “low 16 bits” is going to be a key piece to this puzzles solution. I plan to devote a day or two to exploring this fully, hopefully sometime soon.

Now, I’m going to second William’s request for the letter’s author to come forward!;) At least let us know that there is an actual solution, and it’s not all just “noise.” As I mentioned previously, I highly suspect that this is all a publicity stunt on Fermilab’s part, so it would be nice to get some interaction with the employee(s) responsible for the cipher.

Why do I think it may be a publicity stunt? Perhaps a touch of paranoia, though the following seems to point to this:

-Fermilab’s help desk is WIDE open, and has been for months. This gives us a simple way to check potential solutions against past/present employee numbers. I highly doubt Fermilab would blindly ignore this gaping security hole, despite it being disclosed dozens of times since the letter was made public. With that said, please don’t remove public access to this directory until this has been solved:)

On a related note, didn’t someone recently hack into the LHC’s network using a stolen Fermilab ID? Was this somehow related?

-Fermilab employees not participating. If they really wanted this solved, wouldn’t these brilliant scientists be collaborating in some manner with us? Mr Harris, the post’s author, has contributed to this thread once since May, and that was only to break up Ravin and Richard’s spat. The lack of participation seems odd/suspicious to me.

-I may be mistaken, but the person who solved the top/bottom appears to have very little interest in working on what’s left. Could it be that he already solved it, and has been asked to keep quiet? Paranoiaaaaa!?:)

-With the LHC coming online, Fermilab needs all the publicity they can get:) In line with this, they were actively seeking funding quite recently. (BTW, I am now an official Fermilab FanBoy. Mission accomplished!)

-One element that points to this NOT being a publicity stunt is the stated date that the letter was received – Mar 5, 2007. Fermi’s magnets on the LHC suffered what wikpedia calls a “catastrophic failure” on Mar 27, 2007. I find it unlikely that they’d have the “cajones” to link a stunt of this nature to such a serious event, though it certainly adds another element of mystery to the equation, doesn’t it?

Let’s solve this, people!

Thanks for posting, David; I appreciate you taking the time to allay my suspicions. Eventually someone will crack this, and if the relative simplicity (in retrospect, anyway) of the 1st and 3rd sections are any indication, I suspect we’ll all be smacking our collective foreheads at how obvious it all was.

Think people! A trinary table. 3 sections. Frank Shoemaker. Noise. Employee number. Wilson Hall : Beauvais as Ramsey Auditorium : Basse oeuvre. Low 16. 96 bits / 12 bytes. SFC. Somewhere in there is the answer, for sure.

the first portion of the message posed a most serious threat and therefore immediately addressable. there are already indications things unfolded on a war footing. the middle part is hard so as to discourage casual stripping. it is fantastical and also useful as a distraction.

With regard to row I & Q, apparently they’re often skipped due to their resemblance to “1″ and “O/0,” and the chance of confusion. Makes sense.

here is the rework: +-CMGNCRI (the missing portion had a discriminant of 1.1632 consistent with the algebra suggested)

Matt79,

I think the Shoemaker, Frank C. is incorrect, if we are trying to associate it to your Auditorium idea.

STAGE FRONT CENTER

~WF

I hope you haven’t spent too much time investigating the auditorium angle, William, as it appears I was wayyyy off base. Ramsey Auditorium would occupy the site of the choir, not the nave/”Basse Oureve.”

WF,

I think I can see where this is going.

As an afterthought, maybe I can help with efforts, since the goal is to come to consensus.

For now, I will continue to cogitate with the ideas being presented.

Rich.

PS: I have some ill-assorted “ET’s” from Kryptos if anybody wants them?

Richard,

Feel free to jump in at any time and contribute your thoughts and ideas. If it involves Kryptos, I can’t say I’ll necessarily be able to follow, but *any* ideas are potentially good ideas.

That’s the spirit of crowd sourcing, after all:)

“employee number basse sixteen”

*laughing* I just looked up the translation for “sixteen” in French. It is “seize”.

So help me if this really is “All your basse are belong to us.” I’ll want to strangle some cypher maker.

Hahahahahah…

~WF

http://www.operainfo.org/broadcast/operaBackground.cgi?id=1000000000000130&language=1

Dear All,

I don’t understand the quandary (looking for empty seats when the show is over, etc.).

My account is profoundly verifiable and transparent.

In fact, I doubt that a more thorough or revelatory account of the K4 and Fermilab ciphers has ever come to fruition.

All that is necessary is to do some of the work.

Richard.

PS: “If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor.”

—Albert Einstein

Richard,

Firstly, for the record, I don’t care who discovers ‘The Truth’. I’m not one for recognition. I would just like it the puzzles solved.

You asked a question. No matter the answer, never ask a question to which you do not wish to hear an answer. If you don’t care about/change to the reponses to the question, do not ask the question since enlightment can never be obtained. Your question would only waste the time of the askers and the answerers.

In this set of puzzles ‘The Truth’ is equal to the message(s) encoded. Anything except the ‘The Truth’ is just random things we pull out of our heads in hope to finding ‘The Truth’.

As I have stated before the Human brain loves to find patterns in things where they do not truly exist.

I’ve asked serveral times for an explaination of your process, you have not detailed it enough to allow for verification/replication. This is like yelling to the World “I have discovered Cold Fusion!” but not showing it to the World. The World’s response is to start out with excitement and hope, and finally a call of “BS”.

You discuss other site information for which you do not provide links. You may know what you are talking about, it’s just many of us do not.

You talk about decoding wheels. When using mechanical devices to decode something – everything must be correct/match the original, within the limits of the design of the original encoding mechanicals, to have it decode correctly. What are the details of your mechanicals?

Finding information in the picture icons to enforce your theory doesn’t mean that your theory is correct, or that your association of the one sysmbol is remotely correct to what the coder intended. (re. Saying the “8″ icon is a pictogram of a decoding wheel.) If the “8″ icon is a symbol for a decoding wheel, what are the rest of the symbols for? This is like saying “The Author is ‘The Zodiac Killer’ because one symbol used in the message was used by ‘The Zodiac’.”

One of my many backgrounds is electronic engineering, the “icon symbols” do not look like, as you have stated, electronic devices, or I’ll add, electronic symbols that I’ve ever encountered. There are some symbols that appear to be from the Greek alphabet, as I have stated above. There are also some that resemble encoding symbols from other cyphers, and others that appear to be nothing at all but some randomly drawn icons.

The sections that have been decoded and accepted as ‘The Truth’ have been very well explained in the process of how they were decoded. Your decription process is not well explained, and even so explained, is probably not the ‘The Truth’. The assumptions made as stated by you, are not supported as correct by others. The ‘others’ may be incorrect of course, time will tell.

I use computerized spreadsheet(s) for all my processing, now – because of an error from using bit dropping software before. I have discovered many bit patterns. In one example, I force jumbled a pattern decode-key that generated from one of those bit patterns,
“Dr.ThanksKeepMexicp”. Is it ‘The Truth’? It could be, but probably is not.

The Concensus seems to be, to me, “A solution that matches an pattern, does not make it ‘The Truth’.”

Also, There are more answers yet to be discovered:

What would Frank Shoemaker consider noise, in the Author’s view?
?? (Unsolved cypher, row of icons, row of hex, row of icons, row of hex)
?? (Unsolved cypher, S(f)(c) )
Employee number basse sixteen? (Who/What does this actually reference?)

Anyway, The golden rule from my highschool algebra class was “SHOW YOUR WORK!” or you automatically fail.

~WF

Eric,

You have tall words for zero contribution in the way of solutions or proof of error (layer and text, please).

It is time to “bare it all!”

To keep it really simple regarding process, try these examples:

“DR.THANKSKEEPMEXICP” can be written “DICK KEEPS NP (neuropsychiatric) MATH REX.”

Or,

“SHOW YOUR WORK” can be written “O WORK OUR WHYS.”

Granted that you can find whatever you want in the text, I submit that the whole process is proof in itself.

I will show that the Gutenberg Project “Journey” ciphers (their existence is irrefutable), have a clear and unique message linking the Kryptos and Fermilab ciphers.

Further, I think the code being detected by others in the central Fermilab Runic/Arabic Cipher is an artifact of the fact that Runic lines 1 and 3 are translations (like a Rosetta Stone) to Alpha/Arabic characters on lines 2 and 4.

As stated, “There are more answers yet to be discovered.”

The published Gutenberg “Journey” Runic Cipher is found at:

http://jv.gilead.org.il/pg/18857-h/

There are errors found in the “Journey” author’s translation from Runic to the English alphabet.

All tolled, the errors spell the word “JulIet.”

The Internet search of “Juliet” plus “Kryptos” gives (among others) the following links to Dan Brown and new CIA clues, respectively:

“File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
KRYPTOS, and its connection to. The DaVinci Code and to Dan Brown’s. sequel novel. …… He and his wife Juliet. have three children, Tyler, Kristen, and …
http://www.lafayette.edu/press/magazine/Jan07/class_notes.pdf -“

http://jonasmartinsson.blogspot.com/2007_05_01_archive.html

And yes, there is even reference to the “Zodiac Killer:”

http://invisibleimam.livejournal.com/10852.html

As a note, the artist James Sanborn hinted that there may be an association between “Kryptos” to Dan Brown’s “The DaVinci Code.”

In addition, the Internet search of “Juliet” plus “Fermilab” gives (among others) the following links describing “Project X” and works by author Juliet Lee-Franzini, respectively:

http://www.linearcollider.org/cms/?pid=1000442

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/search?session_query_ref=rbs.queryref_1223301574165&COLLECTIONS=hw1&JC=sci&FULLTEXT=%28fermilab+AND+juliet%29&FULLTEXTFIELD=lemcontent&RESOURCETYPE=HWCIT&ABSTRACTFIELD=lemhwcompabstract&TITLEFIELD=lemhwcomptitle&ck=nck

These finding are abundant “coincidences” lending validity to the decryption.

That the word “Juliet” is an appropriate link (yielding new clues) when combined with either “Fermilab” or “Kryptos” adds validity to the association between the two ciphers.

Finally, “BRICKS OF FOUR HILL” can be written “RICH KILL OFF OUR BS.”

Bring it on (layer and text where the process from Kryptos to Fermilab is fatally flawed, please)!

Rich.

PS: Please double check names and spelling beforehand (it is difficult to give credibility to comments from critics who do not even know how to use a spell checker or who revert to crude innuendo)!

Mr. McBroom,

How do you arrive at your association of the Rune cypher from “Journey to the Center of the Earth”? None of the characters in that runic pattern match any of the ones from the Fermilab cypher. Guess? Hope? It’s a famous cypher so that’s certainly what the author used?

From Wikipedia:
“In Snefflls [sic] Iokulis kraterem kem delibat umbra Skartaris Iulii intra kalendas deskende, audas uiator, te [sic] terrestre kentrum attinges. Kod feki. Arne Saknussemm” is the message.

Again from Wikipedia:
“In Sneffels Joculis craterem, quem delibat umbra Scartaris, Julii intra kalendas descende, audax viator, et terrestre centrum attinges; quod feci. Arne Saknussemm ” is the error emended version.

A side by side comparison of the texts shows a lot more letters in for spelling/translation errors then just “Jullet”, which you then transmogrified into “Juliet”. Could you tell me where you obtained the “Jullet” reference from, please?

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If you enter (x) and (y) into Google there is a HUGE chance there is some link that’s has (x) and (y) associated with it.

If you then enter (y) and (z) into Google there is a HUGE chance there is some link that’s has (y) and (y) associated with it.

If you then enter (z) and (a) into Google there is a HUGE chance there is some link that’s has (y) and (y) associated with it.

Then saying (x) and (a) must be linked, is not ‘clean methodology’ in my view.

Ever heard of “Six degrees of Kevin Bacon”?

All your searches are of that Nature from my vantage point. You are either a person with an amazing ability to free associate words and linkages AND come up with the correct decoding, or you are VERY incorrect.

Although there is a slight chance at your decryption path being correct, I’m willing to bet my continued time/effort on those loose associations not being correct to continue to ponder the code. Perhaps, if I am lucky, finding that you are certainly correct or certainly incorrect, but I can not base my work on random/associative Google searches.

To steal a line from Albert Einstein and twist it to my own purpose, I, at any rate, am convinced that he(the code author) does not throw dice. Google’s dice in this case has millions of sides.

~WF

PS: Regarding the ‘typo’ of your name. I can understand your feelings in this matter, and have to agree, if it was intentional. (I type directly into the ‘leave a reply’ box, so any errors in grammer/spelling I generate do not have access to ‘checkers’)

To those that care and especially to those that don’t,

Something else, since it sort of fits in for the MOTD.

Again, from Wikipedia, from Albert Einstein:
“I have second thoughts. Maybe God is malicious.”
Quoted in Jamie Sayen, Einstein in America (1985). Said to Vladimir Bargmann, with the meaning that God leads people to believe they understand things that they actually are far from understanding. [The Yale Book of Quotations by Fred R. Shapiro, 2006]

I know I am certainly in the class of people are far from understanding.

~WF

All,

Since positional information in the first cypher was very important in the decoding, I’m going to try to maintain it in this: (A=Alpha, N=Numeric)

A…N…A…A…N.N.A.N..A.A..N…N
F…0…B…E…5.8.F.2..F.D..3…3

6…C…7…9…D.2.E.4..9.3..E…6
N…A…N…N…A.N.A.N..N.N..A…N

Looking at the A/N patterns:

ANAANNANAANN
NANNANANNNAN

ANAANNANAANNNANNANANNNAN

Patterns of A/N can be used to create 0-3 numbers.

AN AA NN AN AA NN NA NN AN AN NN AN

AA=0 AN=1 NA=2 NN=3 for an example.

1 0 3 1 0 3 2 3 1 1 3 1

Repeatings patterns are interesting to note.

103103231131 Base 4 = 5061469 decimal

Just more another excersize in patterns in numbers then anything else, or so it seems. If you spot something, yell out, especially if your mind latches on the spacing pattern of the code itself. Perhaps it’s important, perhaps not.

~WF

Last thought for the night.

Awhile back, someone (forget who) posted a comment that jokingly speculated the following (paraphrased):

“This is probably just a CIA/NSA project to generate data on all the different methods people will use when attempting to break an encrypted message”

If by some slim chance that is the purpose of the letter, I’d say their project was a resounding success!

“Patterns of A/N can be used to create 0-3 numbers.”

I like this. I’m going to play around with different generation methods/groupings of A/N, and see if I can somehow get it to relate back to the original base3 table.

All,

Please keep at it. I know it’s crazy/frustrating at times. Someone’s got to crack that code, might as well be one or a combination of all of us as a team…

I’m working up a reward of some kind for whoever does solve the whole dang thing, if they are part of this forum… (Assuming I don’t get myself stuck overseas.)

~WF

Code cracking, physics and *drama*! Fun combination!:)

Hi Matt,

Unfortunately we are still getting so much spam, even with some pretty aggressive spam filters in place, that we need to keep modding on for now. I know it’s not ideal for a really freewheeling back and forth on this topic, but I think we will need to live with it for the moment. I generally try to stay on top of the modding and it is usually no more than a matter of hours outside of work hours before I mod comments, and usually a lot faster within work hours.

Cheers,
David

Ravin,

I will attempt to answer all of the questions.

I am not “WF.”

There is the following scrambled message in the Latin version of the Gutenberg “Journey” Cryptogram:

“IMMUTABLE ATTITUDE
STATED EVIDENCE, OFFENSES AND
JUSTICE DEMAND ARE NECESSARY
AS SEEKERS SUBMISSION SIGNATURE ”

You have revealed more about yourself than others appear to know.

I assumed that you were a player (right or wrong), and I played my part in the game.

A good spy would have turned away from the game if the players had responded unfavorably.

Knight to queen’s four.

Rich.

mr. fisher,

btw…my dad taught me how to fish…this is certainly a fishing expedition

i read back a few of your posts where you stated that the “c” is the same symbol as the zodiac used in undeciphered ciphers

if you could please state the date of your post as for the rest of it…your word might be more credible

so, with your “insight” on the zodiac killer’s letters

let me expand on that for you…1st) one has to do a detailed anaylsis of the zodiac letters…not just the ciphers undeciphered or not

now…you are referring to the button letter of june 26, 1970 and the “my name is” letter of april 20, 1970…both of which have the “c” symbol used in the fermilab cipher

in addition…the CIA claimed they could not decoded the 340 cipher from the dripping pen letter dated november 8, 1969 in which the symbol above the fermilab “c” is not used but variations of it are…i believe them

the 308 cipher of July 31 1969 sent in three parts was deciphered except for the last row of code…being that the zodiac loved to misspell words in order to emphasize them the decoder has to take into account how the zodiac made those changes

so, i think the last row states as follows (the last symbol in the cipher is decoded as an “e” which means the last word decoded was “lifee” then follows with “bs or i et ems a piti” or in real words “bs or i eat them still a pity”

once again the zodiac was taunting the police and any decoder…the mind can find patterns because life is about patterns…but in the 308 cipher the zodiac has a pattern of interchanging certain letters until the last part then he jumbles them in an effort to thwart the decoder or blue meanies as he puts it

and the fermilab “c” is only used in the ciphers sent to the San Francisco Chronicle…the phone number of the SFC ends in 1111 much like the name that mr. mcbroom claims no association with in the pbs kryptos discussion board

at first look of the two ciphers in which the fermilab “c” is used one could say it could mean anything…but it means something….the zodiac gives many clues in his writings as to what they mean…clues that stand out that they could easily be looked over…those clues also go to some of the crime scene clues…more on this later

mr. mcbroom,

i will take the “knight to queen’s four” as an answer to my question you will not address…that answer being that on august 1, 2008 if no apologizes were given you had some consequences in your mind…because we refused to play your game

my rook was already at row four with nothing blocking his sight…so i move my rook to take your knight

Ravin )

Rivan,

First off, It doesn’t matter to me if you think I am McBroom or not, beyond this point. We, both – McBroom and I( both accounts, as far as you can trust two accounts) have stated we are not, sadly, anything beyond that as proof you need, is not possible for me to give.

A simple “Find ‘zodiac’” on webpage would have answered your question/disbelief, instead of doubting my creditability as to mentioning it prior to McBroom; September 24th, 2008 at 8:28 pm., by the way.

There is no detailed anaylsis on my part required, regarding that one icon, unless I really think there’s more to it then there is, at least for me. I was only stating that it was, besides what appears to be a lower case lambda, also used in a few of the Zodiac Killer cyphers.

** I’m trying to re-locate something I found this moring with the Lambda used, in the Zodiac materials where it was actually decoded. Sadly have not restumbled onto that page. My memory wants to put it as an “R, H, or U” – but mostly ignore that until I track down that reference again. **
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What I am thinking, and looking into, though is that the icons MAY be using already mapped icons from other ciphers. Perhaps a jumble of cypher references.
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Life is patterns, yes. But there are links we form in our minds of data where there really is no real linke, except in our mind. Perhap using the 1111 references as an example, real link? Coincidence?? (I suspect, coincidence)

NOW, I do find your digging and what you found regarding the SFC phone number interesting/amusing. Patterns yet again. Until we decode the message and/or locate the author, we’ll not know if it was a terrible coincidence that 1111 is also parts of some of the peoples ID involved in decoding on this forum.

If you feel digging into the Zodiac information further is worth while, or at least entertains you. I’ll be happy to hear what you locate. I suspect that the (c) icon link to the Zodiac Killer code was that THIS code author and the Zodiac Killer used (lowercase lambda) in thier cypher.

The odds would be right at 1 in 10000, except that business phone numbers are often simple series, 6969, 1212, 1234, etc.

Anyway… enough rambling on the subject.

~WF

Mr. McBroom,

Following along with the Chess references, “Check. Sir, your move.”

Good night,
~WF

Dear All,

The proper decryption of the Vedic Strings should be

“I HAVE MAJOR MUMMY GRANT.
JHVH (or) YHVH (Yahweh)”

(The remnant could be “Y” of “J,” depending upon selection—regardless, the meaning is unchanged, and could be interpreted as the promise of eternal life.)

The knowledge regarding “Yahweh” is explained at the following site:

http://www.occultopedia.com/t/tetragrammaton.htm

It is further explained that the word for God was probably pronounced “Yahweh;” and it is a word that could not be spoken—instead “Adonai” was used.

Also stated was that the Bible used the word “Lord” for that word, and sixteenth century corruption of “JHVH” plus the vowels in “Adonai” lead to the word “Jehovah.”

I wish I could show the Gutenberg Project “Journey” Runic Cryptogram, but it can be found at:

http://jv.gilead.org.il/pg/18857-j/

That “Juliet” and “Veetaye” have a different number of characters is because “Juliet” is from transcription errors on the runic text, and “Veetaye” is transcription error on the alphabetic translation plus one extraneous character.

The decryption is important because there is clear reference to “mummy” not encountered until the “Mummy” movie association was made in the Fermilab cipher.

Besides coherently masking the original K4 cipher with the Fermilab cipher (see my earlier contributions regarding the Fermilab cipher), the “Juliet” and Veetaye” strings add significant validity to the association between Kryptos and Fermilab ciphers.

WF, there is no opportunity to fudge the translation of the Mantra strings found at the following site:

http://www.vedmandir.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=143

Is there something about the decryption shown in my previous submission that you cannot follow?

The “Sator Arepo” wheel is also demonstrated in my prior submisions.

It is important that you follow at least what I have shown to understand the process of “shadowing!”

Ravin, king takes queen (you forgot to say “check” when you made the last move).

Richard.

PS: What is “Juliet” without her “Romeo?”

Dear All,

“In another time. In another place.”

Richard.

Ravin,

RE:”do you care to answer my question yet?”

Since players were holding cards, I would have flushed them.

Richard.

ravin and Mr. McBroom, I am very impressed by what you have come to [this is way beyond me].
Mr. McBroom, on Sept. 10th you got:
“YOU HAVE DONE IT.
IT IS A GOOD TIME TO MEET J SANBORN.
DOWNLOAD DUD’S BITTER BLIND CROWN.
DNN.”

So don’t you think you should look again at the cryptic posts by dud / DuD?

Mr, McBroom,

Regarding your comment, “Unlike a scientific finding like global warming, decryption of certain Fermilab and Kryptos ciphers has been a relatively straightforward process, having near black and white interpretation: Either the decryption is right, or it is a delusion.” and “With the clear evidence here-to-fore presented…”

Sadly, you have not presented ANYTHING in CLEAR EVIDENCE! If you had we’d all be calling the News Media and singing your praises. (Well, I hope we all would, anyway.) It’s not the forums job to prove/accept that you have decrypted anything based solely on your word. Your documention is lacking any real support/process for your decryption method and the message you claim to have found.

Others have decrypted sections of the entire document and presented a by step precess. Unless someone comes up with a secondary decription method, the decriptions of the process for “Frank…” and “Employee…” are rock solid and written there in.

Until you can present your decryption AND the process of how you obtained it, in a documented coherent step by step process – which you have not done, people are not going to accept that you’ve decrypted it with any accurate method.

Instead with each and every spouting of what appears to be random fragments of a pipe induced dream you make yourself look, more and more, less creditable.

I am begging you, please, if you have something, post the process(every step of the way – the News media will want that!) – let people review it and accept it. I’d really love to see that someone has actually decrypted this document fully.

I will, also, again repeat, googling words and having pages that have those words on it does NOT mean they are linked in relation to the Fermilab cypher.

Ronald Reagan said “Trust, but verify.” I personally don’t bother with the Trust. You’ll get wishful hope, at best, that you are correct, but that’s about it.

I’ve asked you on many occasions to support your work, but you go further and further into limbo spouting bits of this and that that you’ve found with Google, up to and including stating that God is some how found within your decryption.

Take everything thing you have, put it in a step by step understandable format. Get THE SOLUTION out there so no one can denying you have actually decrypted anything.

For example: You took the (F0BE58F2FD63)and the(6C79D2E493E6) and did (x),(y),(z),(etc.) steps to it and I then got the message “whatever the message is” ***

Make it so no one can claim it is NOT the correct decryption.

I’ve already called “Check” on this, and your “credibility” Chess Timer is running out. Please put it all together and show your work.

With Patience and hope,

~WF

WF,

RE: “Firstly, for the record, I don’t care who discovers ‘The Truth’. I’m not one for recognition.”

Here is another question closer to home?

Does global warming being described by much of the scientific community exist; and if so, is human activity its primary cause?

Richard.

PS: Before the answer, please say that your middle initial is not “W.”

So Rich,

You typed in VEEDAYE into an internet search and found a webpage with 2 mantras on it. Then you cancelled the common characters between the 2 mantras and combined them.
That left you with this:

YGRYA NOATIAR M JM VHM H VEMUHJ

Which you rearranged into:

I HAVE MAJOR MUMMY GRANT YJHVH
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This is the kind of reasoning found in people with schizophrenia. Why would you think that simply typing a word into a search engine would yield something meaningful to this cipher? It’s nuts. It’s something John Nash would do after stopping his medicines.

And you could have rearranged that character string into many things. For example, instead of “I HAVE MAJOR MUMMY GRANT YJHVH” it could have been:

“Joy! Hmmm! Jam heavy, raving hurt.”

Why was it one and not the other? After finding “Joy! Hmmm! Jam heavy, raving hurt” should I believe that this puzzle is a warning against dangerous techno music parties?

Rich…sorry. That was kind of harsh. I didn’t mean to be so offensive. I’m just frustrated. I think the majority of this board are simply wondering why you feel so confident in your answers when there is so little evidence to back up your methods and conclusions. I just don’t see any strange “coincidences” in the findings you have presented. Are we missing something?

Peace,
Ryan

All,

I’ve been playing around with some decryption matrix(s) and was wondering if anyone one else has been doing thing long those lines.

Thanks!

~WF

WF,

RE:William Fisher Says: October 14th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

I want you to retract your ruminations regarding my alleged mal-intentions, because they are blatantly absurd and malicious.

Assuredly,
Richard.

This is probably the response being solicited: ─

Dear All,

Misspelling has been an indication of encrypted messages.

I had thought that WF was obfuscating this.

Here are the 3 strings found at the OBKR site:

String 1:
JUMBO

SON OF NATIONAL GRAND CHAMPION RENOIR; WITH CODI/PCI ON THE DAM’S SIDE; JUMBO IS IN HIS FIRST SEASON AS OUR “NUMERO UNO” HERD SIRE. ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE YOU MIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING SPECIEAL. OURS WAS TO PURCHASE THIS FINE ANIMAL. NOT JUST ANOTHER “SON OF,” BUT WITH HIS DAM, HE ADDS EVEN MORE MUSCLE AND RAPID GROWTH TO THE GREAT LOOKS AND CONFIRMATION OF HIS CHAMPIONSHIP ANCESTRY.WE HAVE CROSSED HIM WITH SOME OF THE BEST BLOODLINES (DOES) AVAILABLE AND THE RESULTS ARE TO BEHOLD(KIDS ). THIS LINK IS TO JUMBO’S PEDIGREE

String 2
JUMBO’S KIDS

JUMBO IS THE SIRE OF THESE KIDS. IT IS APARANT THAT HE HAS THE CHAMPIONSHIP TRAITS OF HIS FATHER RENOIR. EVEN THE JUST BORN HAVE MUSCLING AND LENGTH THAT IS ABOVE AVERAGE FOR BOER GOATS. SOME OF THIS IS DUE TO THE COMPLIMENTARY SELECTION OF THE DAMS THAT THAT INCLUDE THE LINES FROM ” PIPELINE”, “TORO/MOJO”, “OSCAR”, “SUMO/MOJO”, “KAPTEIN”, “CONCHO”, “EGGSTREME”, “EGGSPENSIVE”,ETC. JUST TO NAME A FEW. WE ARE EGARLY WATCHING THEM GROW

String 3
DOES

MARIAH IS A PLUMP WADDELING GOAT THAT BITES A LOT. JUST A TEASE, THIS PAGE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION

Here is the rule of shadowing: Any character in one of the strings (three strings in this instance) will combine with the same character in any of the other strings (two in this instance) to annihilate completely (two matched characters therefore disappear).

The remnant (or mutually exclusive subset) after this process is complete is:

String 1 Remnant
; DD; UD Y NN ISN OD OO ONIRON
HI ION NW OSSDWLODI DO IBL

String 2 Remnant
ND RUBBR ‘. .V. “” “/J”, “”, “”, “”, “G”,C

String 3 Remnant
E MMETA T T A TEAE TAE ETT

Combined Remnant
;D;DUDYNN ISN OD OO ONIRON
HI ION NW OSSDWLODI DO IBL
ND RUBBR ‘. .V. “” “/J”, “”, “”, “”, “G”,C
E MMETA T T A TEAE, TAE ETT

The decryption
YOU HAVE DONE IT.
IT IS A GOOD TIME TO MEET “J”,” “, “”, “”, “”;”"; SANBORN.
DOWNLOAD DUD’S BITTER BLIND CROWN,
/DNN.

The peculiar punctuation that a more rigorous decryption exposes reveals the following puzzle for a missing middle initial:

“A “, “M”, “E”, “S”;”";

This puzzle can be interpreted as, “Am E. S(anborn).”

I have already stated that “E” is the middle initial in the Fermilab Runic Cryptogram.

This finding gives added validity to that decryption.

WF, you owe me; and I now owe you—net, a big hug and thank you!!

Richard.

Ryan,

OOooo.. You’ve given me a few ideas. If anything pans out I’ll make sure you get due credit! Nice.

~WF

Dear All,

RE: “F0BE58F2FD63″ and “6C79D2E493E6″

I have stated that strings 2 and 4 in the central Fermilab cryptogram are like a Rosetta Stone.

All that is needed is to determine the alphabetic equivalent of the Arabic (numeric) characters.

I have previously stated that there is a 90% chance that by some logic those characters are remaining characters in the statement, “Michael Faraday before Charles Proteus Steinmetz. Top of D.”

I have shown that the remnant (unmatched) string is “michalyhlusimz” (this was determined by allowing the double “S’s” in the “SATOR AREPO TENET OPERA ROTAS” cryptogram.

The primary reason for that assertion is that the alphabetic (“michalyhlusimz”)and numeric (“05826367924936”) strings are the same length.

Additionally, there are the right number of repetitions for characters in the two strings, except there are three “6’s,” and none of the alphabetic characters in the “michalyhlusimz” string appear more than twice, meaning that one of the numeric characters must have double meaning (this is sometimes done in encryption).

I can now state that the probabilty of a match is a certainty.

The conflict is easily resolved by considering the alphabetic and numeric orders of the relative characters, while grouping the alphabetic characters by how many times they appear plus where they appear in the relative orders.

The following result (a key) appears:

0_2_3_6_9
A_H_I_L_M (characters appearing twice)

4_5_6_7_8
C_U_S_Y_Z (characters appearing once)

This key allows translation of the numeric characters into alphabetic, except for the confusion that may result from the “6’s;” however, this is easily resolved from knowing the “S’s are the key.” Therefore, the “S” gets to share its place with the “L” adjacent to a “6.”

Using the translation key, the following two strings develop:

F_A_B_E_U_Z_F_H_F_D_L_I

S_C_Y_M_D_H_E_C_M_I_E_L

(Are you still with me WF, because here comes the “SATOR AREPO” wheel?)

Transposing the “SATOR AREPO TENET OPERA ROTAS” string turned into a wheel (“Top of D”), the progression of that wheel can be simulated (one complete rotation for each count) by deleting one “S” (the “static”) gives the following translation graph.

N_E_T_O_P_E_R_A_R_O_T_A
F_A_B_E_U_Z_F_H_F_D_L_I

S_A_T_O_R_A_R_E_P_O_T_E
S_C_Y_M_D_H_E_C_M_I_E_L

The “S’s” are shown aligned because, again, the “S’s are the key.”

The message then must be extracted from the numeric characters on both lines 2 and 4 of the central Fermilab Cryptogram, respectively:

058263
67924936

Remembering “DC before AC,” means decryption for the top numeric string is done by counting spaces along strings 2 and 4, then looking at the character directly above.

The following string results:

SAAEDS

The bottom numeric string must alternate (the “3” in the top string returned the decryption to “S”).

Counting over 6 spaces from the “S” (lower string) gives “R” (string above).

Counting over 7 spaces from the “R” (above string) gives “A” (string below).

The process continues until the following string appears:

RATSRAPL

Combining the two decryptions gives:

SAAEDS
RATSRAPL

The following scrambled message is revealed:

STRAP (fasten or bind) DEALS AS RA (supreme deity of ancient Egypt).

This message has meaning because, and it is consistent with the mummy references (unless one of you finds a more significant meaning that sticks).

Richard.

PS: The only deal I want is to see for now is a little regard for all the effort I have expended for the benefit of you all!

Dear All,

I have shown one character on the wrong line in my previous.

The correct placements are:

2_3_6_9
H_I_L_M (characters appearing twice)

0_4_5_6_7_8
A_C_U_S_Y_Z (characters appearing once)

This does not change the translation.

Thanks.

Richard.

Sorry, my previous post should have read like this

204661839257527297200882190061974494291571470522327720020850930566723161014351927091423683151863300465469909918343960011213020567096319031747

Dear All,

“Says” is right about the final part of the string.

On the DC portion I keyed an “A” during decryption when there should have been a “H.”

The proper DC remnant is

SHAEDS

The AC remnant remains

RATSRAPL

Combined

SHAEDS
RATSRAPL

Decryption

STRAP DEALS AS RH (Royal Highness)

Thanks for the demotion (it was bad karma, anyway).

There is one more message found in the key, itself:

H_I_L_M (characters appearing twice)
A_C_U_S_Y_Z (characters appearing once)

Decryption

CIA MUZL SHY

Also, the preferred designation of “6” for “S” means that “U” comes before “S” in the numeric order for the decryption key.

The coded string is

A_C_U_S_Y_Z (characters appearing once)

Decryption

USA thru Z (very CIA)

LOL and all attribution to God.

Richard.

Dear All,

RE: “In short, if his middle initial is NOT “E” your logic chain is broken. Is it not?”

WF, your argument is set upon a premise (above) addressed to me; and my answer (to you) is, “No.”

The correct question should be, “Why would the cryptographer indicate through encryption that James Sanborn’s middle initial is ‘E’ (it may be that only the artist, himself, can definitively answer this question)?”

I believe that I have alreadly provided an answer, unless a better one is found?

Again, that the Kryptos ciphers led to the Gutenberg “Journey” ciphers, to the Fermilab Runic/Arabic ciphers, and to others is undeniable (you witnessed it yourselves).

The burden of proof has now shifted: Where is the logical pathway leading from Kryptos to where we are now fatally flawed (layer and text please)?

Finally, if there is no clear decryption, then the cryptograms themselves may be fatally flawed (which I doubt).

Will the true artist responsible for the cryptograms please come forward and indicate to others on this forum that the cryptograms were correctly transmitted and effectively interpreted, thereby verifying the degree of perfection to the works?

Respectfully submitted,
Richard McBroom

McBroom,

Regarding: [The correct question should be, “Why would the cryptographer indicate through encryption that James Sanborn’s middle initial is ‘E’ (it may be that only the artist, himself, can definitively answer this question)?”]

Gosh… Why would someone do that?

If we assume the code author made a typo, or incorrectly gave Mr. Sanborn’s middle inital as “E”, or had some other reason to designate Mr. Sanborn as “E” for a middle intial, there is no way to confirm this unless the author of the code came forward.

If assumptions of typos were allowed, we could also assume that decryption of the bit patterns and a letter mapping giving the message “Dr.ThanksKeepMexicp” is the correct translation along with the BASSE being incorrect spelling also. Which I think almost anyone would agree is PROBABLY incorrect, especially me, decryption and probably not mispelled.

To paraphrase a famous observation: All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best.

With the “E” as a middle name, wouldn’t it be simpler, even as much exciting work and energy as was put into it, to assume the decrypytion is incorrect?

~WF

PS: I’ll be quit of works based off of mispellings and mis-aligned paths. I have no easy way to cross-check that without the code author’s confirmations. It’s wasting effort to assume the author created One to Three typo’s in the cypher. My wanderings will be trying to decrypt/associate/understand the raw data presented as presented.

Ravin,

In all likelyhood, the lowercase Lambda-like symbol used in the middle section is probably just a lowercase Lambda-like symbol.

All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best. Anything beyond that will be discovered once the decryption is made, or the code author comes forward.

Do you have thoughts and ideas about the code section that’s been ‘undiscovered’ so far? Method for translations you wish followed up with?

Thanks!
~WF

Here’s a few potentially interesting tidbits for everyone to mull over, courtesy of team William and Matt.

First, S(alpha), hex(f), hex(c). The fifteenth and twelfth positions in the base 3 table are ‘O’ and ‘L’ respectively. Yes, as far as decoding the middle portion of this letter goes, we all seem to be SOL, but it could go beyond that. According to G-translate and Babelfish, ‘Sol’ in French = Ground. Taken in tandem with French “Basse” = “low”, it could be part of a larger pattern.

Kinda sorta loosely related to the above. There’s four alpha characters in the middle section’s second line (CDEE), which could represent “low 16 bits” (in hex), and likewise, it fits into sol/ground (As far the line being the lower of the two). Inserted into the base 3 table, using the letters as keys, one ends up with tri: 010, 011, 012, 012, which is dec: 3, 4, 5, 5.

Could a combination of those four numbers be the employee number? Probably not, but it can’t hurt to throw it out there. All of the following is covered:

-Noise: The top line and symbols.
-Basse sixteen: As mentioned, CDEE = “low 16 bits”. This does not fully satisfy me…as we end up jumping from hex to alpha to ternary to dec.
-SFC: Again, as already explained, “ground”
-Relates back to the top/bottom through use of the table.

sum of 3,4,5,5 = 17, or C.O in the directory.
concatenation of 3,4,5,5 = W.L (visitor) in the directory.

There’s of course various other ways to interpret those four digits..though I don’t see a logical way to do so other than possibly concat or sum.

At the very least, I like the idea of using the alphabetical “hex” as keys mapping to ternary.

Thoughts?

Says (*),

RE:
20466183925752729720088219006197449429157147052232772002085093056672316101435192709142368315186330046546990991834396001121302056709631903174

and

204661839257527297200882190061974494291571470522327720020850930566723161014351927091423683151863300465469909918343960011213020567096319031747

The message is clear.

The second version has an added character at the end indicating that “7” is key.

Seven divides evenly into the number of characters in the first string, which is even more significant.

Taking every seventh character from the first transmission, the following coded message strings are obtained (the other characters are “static”):

8200913201
5110931034

Applied to the “SATOR AREPO”/Fermilab Decryption wheels (first string DC/ second string AC), the numeric characters are translated to alphabetic characters.

PTTTARAAAT
EMOIRDTLAH

Combining the two strings, the following message is revealed:

A RATTLE THAT ADROIT MAP

Thanks for putting that together, because it verifies that now there is at least one person who knows what I am talking about with the Fermilab cryptogram decryption.

Witness a message that was transmitted by one person, received in the open by another, and translated while others dumbly “continued to march,” even after being told the method of decryption.

I hope that “rattles” some of the skeptics!

Even more important, it says something about human and cultural critical thought processes in general.

Richard.

McBroom,

Regarding: Richard McBroom Says: October 22nd, 2008 at 9:06 pm

Since “* Says: October 20th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Sorry, my previous post should have read like this … ” indicates that it is a correction to the previous transmission from sender…

I generally will take a person at the word they give before going down other paths.

**

In my childhood, I was fan of comic book super-heroes. In that vein, you seemly have some super-mutated intellect that sees far beyond the stated and obvious. It can seemingly decode the subliminal messages lodged deep within the mind of the sender, link seemingly random bits of information to a finely crafted web of mystery. The “Riddler” has a lot to learn from you.

I am not rattled by this.

Regarding: “A RATTLE THAT ADROIT MAP” from the mappings you generated of “PTTTARAAAT EMOIRDTLAH”

I didn’t find that message in “PTTTARAAAT EMOIRDTLAH”. I found “To Matt, A Deathtrap Lair” – obviously a message indicating that creator of “PTTTARAAAT EMOIRDTLAH” in some subliminal way is trying to suck Matt79 into a terrible cypher ‘deathtrap’.

As proof I offer, more obvious subliminal words from those letters; it can also be shown to create the words “To Matt, A Partial Hatred”. Certainly the creator of “PTTTARAAAT EMOIRDTLAH” really does not like Matt79 much at all, and probably me.

Sarkasmos,
~WF

PS: I’m heading back to dumbly “continued to march” even after being told the method of decryption, especially so.

– Signature –
General Service Announcement: Take medication, on time, every time. Use as directed. Contact physician if unusual side-effects occur.

McBroom,

Regarding: Richard McBroom Says:
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:55 pm “I was the person addressed.”

– Per the author of the message..

* Says: October 22nd, 2008 at 3:14 pm “The numbers I posted are a message for anyone to decipher.”

Personally, I don’t have time to invest into yet another cypher. Hopefully the author will state that you did, or didn’t, get it correct soon, and you/we can move on…

If you did, I’ll move on to other cyphers.

~WF

PS: I’m heading back to dumbly “continued to march” even after being told the method of decryption, especially so.

– Signature –
General Service Announcement: Take medication, on time, every time. Use as directed. Contact physician if unusual side-effects occur.

If anyone’s still considering converting the hex values into ternary, here are some ideas.

S in ternary is 201. 201 in hex is C9. Maybe we have to decode the hex so that the C and 9 are under the figures indicated in the 3 figure “key” instead of F and C. Notice how FC matches up perfectly with C9:

0 3
1 4
2 5
3 6
4 7
5 8
6 9
7 A
8 B
9 C
A D
B E
C F
D 0
E 1
F 2

Another idea I had was pairs of the hex values in the code could create ternary that we could translate into alphas.

hex (from middle section)/ternary/alpha

02 = 002 = B
0B = 011 = D
0C = 012 = E
64 = 100 = I
65 = 101 = J
66 = 102 = K
6E = 110 = L
6F = 111 = M
70 = 112 = N
78 = 120 = O
79 = 121 = P
C8 = 200 = R
C9 = 201 = S
D2 = 210 = U
D3 = 211 = V
D4 = 212 = W
DC = 220 = X
DD = 221 = Y
DE = 222 = Z

We can’t make the following ternary/alphas from pairs of the hex given in the middle section: A,C,F,G,H,Q,T

Now I suppose the ternary could contain 3′s instead of zero’s, but it wouldn’t make all that much sense to encode it that way. Sections 1 and 3 used groupings of 1, 2, and 3 because it would have been hard to express a zero using the author’s “hash mark” coding method.

Any ideas?

one more thing…in the first weekend…i figure basse sixteen was the name of a small group of people who sabotaged the lhc…in order to account for the misspelling of basse…

then that worked itself out in the zodiac codes…then, i realized why…

Dear All,

See you on PBS/ Nova Science Now Blog.

Richard.

PS: “SFC” = “Go toward the light.”