Comments on: Computing in a grid or a cloud http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2008/10/24/computing-in-a-grid-or-a-cloud/ extra dimensions of particle physics Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:22:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: symmetry breaking » Blog Archive » A handy guide to grids and clouds http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2008/10/24/computing-in-a-grid-or-a-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-11452 symmetry breaking » Blog Archive » A handy guide to grids and clouds Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:50:42 +0000 http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/?p=1373#comment-11452 [...] the better choice for particle physics and other data-intensive science. In October we pointed to an analysis by Ignacio Martín Llorente of the Distributed Systems Architecture Research Group in Madrid [...] [...] the better choice for particle physics and other data-intensive science. In October we pointed to an analysis by Ignacio Martín Llorente of the Distributed Systems Architecture Research Group in Madrid [...]

]]> By: symmetry breaking » Blog Archive » Cloud computing for the rest of us http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2008/10/24/computing-in-a-grid-or-a-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-10579 symmetry breaking » Blog Archive » Cloud computing for the rest of us Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:54:59 +0000 http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/?p=1373#comment-10579 [...] have debated the merits of grid computing versus cloud computing, but the two are in many ways complimentary, we reported in symmetry breaking last [...] [...] have debated the merits of grid computing versus cloud computing, but the two are in many ways complimentary, we reported in symmetry breaking last [...]

]]> By: Hosting meets the cloud | ScienceLogic http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2008/10/24/computing-in-a-grid-or-a-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-6799 Hosting meets the cloud | ScienceLogic Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:27:21 +0000 http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/?p=1373#comment-6799 [...] And a question provided by an attendee from EMC: A few years ago, this would have been a grid discussion. How is the cloud different? [...] [...] And a question provided by an attendee from EMC: A few years ago, this would have been a grid discussion. How is the cloud different? [...]

]]> By: stavros http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2008/10/24/computing-in-a-grid-or-a-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-6092 stavros Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:23:07 +0000 http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/?p=1373#comment-6092 I totally agree with Llorente and this has been my opinion as well for a long time now. Many of the underlying concepts are similar (and blurry) in both technologies. It is just that they "focus" so to say, on different perspectives: cross-domain heterogeneous resource utilization for the Grid, high-level resource virtualization for the Cloud. You will see lots of research on virtualization for Grid systems as well. I myself have participated in a number of Grid projects that dealt with virtualization among other things. So in a sense you can consider the Cloud to be a subset of the domain that the Grid is targeting. I don't think it is a matter of superseding it! It might also be a political/funding thing: the Grid has been funded for the last 10 years and it is very difficult to get funds for new research on the Grid, even though there remain lots of open questions. By focusing on virtualization separately as in the Cloud, getting funds becomes slightly easier! I totally agree with Llorente and this has been my opinion as well for a long time now. Many of the underlying concepts are similar (and blurry) in both technologies. It is just that they “focus” so to say, on different perspectives: cross-domain heterogeneous resource utilization for the Grid, high-level resource virtualization for the Cloud.

You will see lots of research on virtualization for Grid systems as well. I myself have participated in a number of Grid projects that dealt with virtualization among other things. So in a sense you can consider the Cloud to be a subset of the domain that the Grid is targeting. I don’t think it is a matter of superseding it!

It might also be a political/funding thing: the Grid has been funded for the last 10 years and it is very difficult to get funds for new research on the Grid, even though there remain lots of open questions. By focusing on virtualization separately as in the Cloud, getting funds becomes slightly easier!

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